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To: cva66snipe
Why involve spouse, adult children, Dr Whoever, etc in an act of suicide which can be done by ones self and not involve others?

You, too, need to invoke comprehension. You are engaging in the straw man argument as well.

Insofar as your words quoted above, I presume you have no Power of Attorney or Living Will. That or you are suggesting that it is the STATE's responsibility to choose how you end your own suffering when you are incapable, which is wrong on so may counts I will not engage...

31 posted on 04/19/2015 9:00:03 AM PDT by logi_cal869 (-cynicus-)
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To: logi_cal869
In my state medically if no living will is made and the patient can't express their wishes the family has legal say in treatment starting with the spouse then from there the oldest adult child then the persons parent if living or a sibling.

My sister for over a decade mentally was incapable to make such a document. Strokes and Dementia over the years took it's toll. She was 62. My wife of 29 years was an incomplete quadriplegic I married over 29 years ago after the fact. I was her husband first, then her caregiver, then her advocate. After 29 years I knew her wishes. A very strong strain of Cold Virus she had contracted developed into Bacterial Pneumonia. She had COPD caused by Quadriplegia complications, Asthma, and mild Emphysema. The doctors did all they could do. It was her time. She was 64.

When she took a turn for the worse she was rushed to ICU. They were running 6 Liters of O2 on a mask waiting for the doctor to come in and run a bronchial tube for the Ventilator. She was pulling the mask off and saying "I'm tired please let me go" and this went on for a couple of hours. The next day she had no recollection of it and continued the good fight for her life as well as she could do.

The Ventilator was hooked up and after three days the doctors told me that she could not survive off the Ventilator meaning institution and that meant long term care if she made it that far. Long term Ventilator dependent care is almost non existent and only a few facilities do it. The nearest was two states away. Each scope they did turned up more infection and fluid on the lung her contorted body was blocking. They took her off the machine and pulled the bronchial tube to see if she could breath without it for long periods of time. That was when she told me and the doctors her wishes based on that situation and all the information we had to go on.

A few days later they did a Trach and sent her home on Home Hospice. Within 24 hours of coming home almost to the hour GOD made His call and took her home. One of the hardest things I've done in my life was having DNR placed on her record. I knew that was what she wanted. She had been a CNA before becoming a quad, we both are Christians, and understand the last breath here is the first breath with The Lord.

Now allow me to present the suicide advocates "CHOICE" push. According to what is being pushed 29 years ago she could have decided that hey life as a Quad is not for me and in a depressed state had someone help end her life. She suffered from Clinical Depression BTW and PTSD.

Her 29 years as a quadriplegic changed many lives for the better especially mine. I was the most unlikely caregiver ever and that was what my family said. She got to see her daughters grow up and marry. and the grandchildren got to see their and know their grandmother and one is wanting to be an Orthopedic Surgeon.

GOD never promised an adversity free life nor an easy death. The ones close to Jesus His chosen Disciples all but one suffered violent deaths. One likely died of old age in exile.

You need to go back and read your post on this thread. Who is it you seemed to be most concerned about? Who's wishes?

34 posted on 04/19/2015 9:31:55 AM PDT by cva66snipe ((Two Choices left for U.S. One Nation Under GOD or One Nation Under Judgment? Which one say ye?))
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To: logi_cal869

The only reasonable solution for you is to act autonomously before there is any chance of being unable to do so.


37 posted on 04/19/2015 10:10:30 AM PDT by Trailerpark Badass (There should be a whole lot more going on than throwing bleach, said one woman.)
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