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To: Mrs. Don-o

Suggesting that I would have my friends & family do it is a convenient straw man argument.

The logical reasoning to my comment is that it is ‘not legal’ for my family to carry out my wishes by having it performed, not ‘doing the deed’ themselves which is, of course, illegal.

‘Nice try’ would be a knee=jerk response to your comment, but it wasn’t ‘nice’, was it? (that was ‘rhetorical’; you might look that up, too)


27 posted on 04/19/2015 8:16:18 AM PDT by logi_cal869 (-cynicus-)
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To: logi_cal869
"There is NO argument that can remove my right and, thus, the need exists for a legal alternative for my friends and/or family to carry out my wishes." Have you disavowed this statement? Or would you prefer to deny you wrote it?
28 posted on 04/19/2015 8:32:05 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (So to speak.)
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To: logi_cal869
The logical reasoning to my comment is that it is ‘not legal’ for my family to carry out my wishes by having it performed, not ‘doing the deed’ themselves which is, of course, illegal.

Have you been in a position where you had to make the choice for ending aggressive treatment for a dying loved one even following "Their" wishes which brought death as the result? That is not an easy thing to do and even that afterwards takes time to come too terms with when they pass.

Why involve spouse, adult children, Dr Whoever, etc in an act of suicide which can be done by ones self and not involve others? Is it the need of legitimizing or rationalizing in the patients mind the needs? The validation of "Ah" it is legal so it's obviously morally OK?

From the last week in February to third week in March I faced two gut wrenching decisions I had to make for two very beloved to me "end of life" situations. One I was medical POA for which was my sister {only sibling} the other was my wife who finally had the chance to vocally express to me and our doctors her choice in treatment. Medical science had done all they could do except for possibly a life on a Ventilator two states away that she likely would not have survived the transport.

I didn't want that burden placed on our daughters so I knowing her wishes decided. It's not as cut and dry as you would like to believe it is as it impacts the family as a whole and decisions have to be lived with even if "You" make them. It may be your wishes but it may violate or later impact "their" conscience. Is that worth it? Suicide almost always leaves a mental scar upon loved ones. End of life decisions within the accepted moral boundaries are enough for the typical person to deal with.

I had a neighbor end his life. He chose a shotgun after trying several deliberate car wrecks first. His wife found him. I had an uncle who sent my aunt to the drugstore for his cancer meds and he took out a firearm she thought she had hidden from him. Both men were terminal. One suffered from strokes and depression and the other the last one was just a self centered man bent on his way or else. Over two decades both families still "deal" with their choices. Anyone can end their life. It doesn't take that much brain power.

Now, what right does anyone have to inflict the emotional pain of suicide upon others whether it is done peacefully or otherwise? I can understand mental illness being the cause the rest? No.

29 posted on 04/19/2015 8:46:56 AM PDT by cva66snipe ((Two Choices left for U.S. One Nation Under GOD or One Nation Under Judgment? Which one say ye?))
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