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Hey, Christian Business Owners: The Government Isn’t ‘Forcing’ You To Do Anything
Talking Points Memo ^ | 04/07/2015 | Sally Kohn

Posted on 04/07/2015 7:09:21 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

You may have heard that the government is forcing businesses not to discriminate. It isn’t. If you chose to run a business, you have to follow the laws. If you don’t, that’s a choice—and you choose to suffer the consequences.

Still, in the wake of the controversy surrounding Indiana’s law, conservatives don’t see it that way. Even potential Republican presidential candidates are getting in on the assertions. Rick Santorum recently said:

If you’re a print shop and you are a gay man, should you be forced to print ‘God Hates Fags’ for the Westboro Baptist Church because they hold those signs up? Should the government—and this is really the case here — should the government force you to do that? This is about the government coming in and saying, “No, we’re going to make you do this.” And this is where I think we just need some space to say let’s have some tolerance, be a two-way street.

There are two problems with Santorum’s reasoning. The first is that a printer doesn’t have to make such signs, under any law, because refusing to do so is not discrimination in any legally prohibited sense. A print shop can also refuse to print a poster that says, for instance, “F*ck Rick Santorum,” either because it disagrees with the language or the sentiment. Both are entirely legally permissible decisions any business can rightfully make.

But let’s say the printer is asked to make a communion sign or a gay wedding sign. In this case—especially in states that prohibit discrimination based on sexual orientation as well as religion—refusing to print such a sign would indeed be illegal. The government isn’t forcing that business to do anything other than follow the law. Which is what we expect of all businesses, equally.

This issue of government force is a funny one. You could also argue that the government is forcing you to drive below the speed limit or wear a seatbelt in your car. But it’s not. There isn’t a police officer holding a gun to your head literally forcing you to buckle up. In fact, you are 100 percent free to speed and not wear your seatbelt—and simply deal with the consequences if you’re pulled over. Is the threat of the fine for breaking the law amount to “forcing” you to follow the law? No.

And more to the point, the government certainly isn’t forcing you to drive. If you don’t like the speed limit and seatbelt rules, and don’t want to be subject to the consequences of breaking them, then you can not drive. Whether to drive or not is your choice.

This all seems simple when we talk about driving, but somehow a fringe set of rightwing conservatives want us all to believe that hapless business owners are somehow being forced, against their will, to serve pizza to gay people. Nothing could be further from the truth. If you don’t want to serve pizza to gay people, by all means, don’t—which, by the way, is legal in Indiana and 28 other states, but even where it is illegal, you’re still free to do so and deal with the consequences of breaking the law. That, pizza shop owner, is your choice. And if you don’t want to deal with those consequences, well, no one is forcing you to be in the pizza business. You’re free to do something else.

In the wake of the Loving v. Virginia ruling in 1967, Bob Jones University, a Christian college in South Carolina that explicitly denied admissions to black students, maintained its policy against interracial dating and marriage, citing the Bible. So the school suffered the consequences. In 1983, the Supreme Court upheld the decision of the Internal Revenue Service to revoke Bob Jones University’s tax-exempt status. But the university was still free to continue its discriminatory practices. In fact, while the school did start admitting African-Americans in the 1970s, the ban on interracial dating was only lifted in 2000.

In the United States, private businesses get all kinds of government support—a functional monetary system, police that safeguard private property, roads that help deliver customers and goods, public schools that educate workers, telecommunications infrastructure, legal protections against copyright and patent infringement, tax benefits for business expenses and employee health care, legal shields for owners and more. No one is forcing businesses to take advantage of all those benefits, nor forcing you to start a business to begin with nor forcing you to do so in a state with non-discrimination laws or in the United States to begin with.

Don’t like following the laws that apply to businesses—including serving all customers equally? Then don’t start a business. That’s your choice.

-- Sally Kohn is a columnist and CNN political commentator.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: christian; dnctalkingpoints; gaymarriage; government; homofascism; mandatorybarfalert; mba; rfra; sallykohn; samesexmarriage
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To: SeekAndFind

“The government isn’t forcing that business to do anything other than follow the law. Which is what we expect of all businesses, equally.”

This explains the above. “If you want to know, Sally Kohn is also a distinguished Vaid Fellow at the National Gay and Lesbian Task Force Policy Institute.”


101 posted on 04/07/2015 10:03:18 AM PDT by Tomato lover (Jesus wants to give you Eternal Life, simply repent and accept him and it's yours.)
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To: SeekAndFind

“The government isn’t forcing that business to do anything other than follow the law. Which is what we expect of all businesses, equally.”

This explains the above. “If you want to know, Sally Kohn is also a distinguished Vaid Fellow at the National Gay and Lesbian Task Force Policy Institute.”


102 posted on 04/07/2015 10:03:18 AM PDT by Tomato lover (Jesus wants to give you Eternal Life, simply repent and accept him and it's yours.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Do us a favor and add a “Barf Alert” to this title. Since the author is a raving, leftist dog, a “Bark Alert” would work as well.


103 posted on 04/07/2015 10:06:53 AM PDT by ohioman
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To: SeekAndFind

What a f#%^&ing retard.
People like this used to get drummed into oblivion for spouting such insipid drivel.
Now they are celebrated as ‘courageous’. All because they are gay.
This country has a cancer - the left.


104 posted on 04/07/2015 10:12:09 AM PDT by No_More_Harkin
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To: SeekAndFind

If religious liberty, enshrined in the First Amendment, is no longer valid, then neither is freedom of the press.

Sally Kohn is therefore required to stand before a camera and on-air recite a heterosexual wedding endorsement, disavowing support for homosexual ceremonies. She will be critiqued by a panel of conservatives.

Failure to be convincing in her sole support of hetero weddings is punishable by fines.

THAT is the analogous consequence to brainless dirtbags like Sally.


105 posted on 04/07/2015 10:17:34 AM PDT by MortMan (All those in favor of gun control raise both hands!)
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To: SeekAndFind
The first is that a printer doesn’t have to make such signs, under any law, because refusing to do so is not discrimination in any legally prohibited sense.

Wrong. "God hates fags" is a religious statement. Refusing to print it would be trampling on the free exercise of what someone considers their religion.
106 posted on 04/07/2015 10:29:15 AM PDT by TalonDJ
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To: SeekAndFind

“because refusing to do so is not discrimination in any legally prohibited sense.”

If the law defines discrimination, then why were there protests about the original RFRA allowing discrimination? If the law defines what is discrimination, then by definition a law cannot be discrimination.

If it was not for double standards, the left would have no standards at all.


107 posted on 04/07/2015 10:39:46 AM PDT by csivils
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To: DiogenesLamp

I have no objection to requirements to demonstrate competency. I *DO* have objections to the usage of a “license” as an imminent threat to coerce “state approved behavior” or the presumption that they are doing you a favor by allowing you to exercise your right to use the public roads.


You and I are actually on the same page on this thing once we talk out the specifics.


108 posted on 04/07/2015 10:53:50 AM PDT by cuban leaf (The US will not survive the obama presidency. The world may not either.)
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To: ohioman

RE: Do us a favor and add a “Barf Alert” to this title. Since the author is a raving, leftist dog,

Not enough spaces for the title. I would have had the software allowed me.


109 posted on 04/07/2015 10:54:25 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: DiogenesLamp

I’ve never written anything of the sort.

The Homofascists cannot be defeated based on PROCESS, because they will always appeal (successfully) to civil rights law and jurisprudence.

They can be defeated ONLY when the vast majority of the population is revolted by sodomy AND understands why it is destructive.

Unfortunately, the vast majority of the population accepts and practices sodomy. The species of sodomy they practice is called “contraception.”

When the majority of the population reject the evil of contraception, they will have the moral understanding and courage to stand up against the other forms of sodomy.


110 posted on 04/07/2015 3:14:19 PM PDT by Arthur McGowan
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To: SeekAndFind

National Divorce. NOW!


111 posted on 04/07/2015 9:38:43 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You can help: https://www.tedcruz.org/donate/)
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