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Smoking Worst Health Habit of Those on Medicaid [how do "poor" people afford cigarettes?]
Gallup ^ | April 4, 2013 | Elizabeth Mendes

Posted on 04/02/2015 9:23:49 PM PDT by grundle

Smoking Worst Health Habit of Those on Medicaid

Thirty-six percent of adults whose primary health insurance source is Medicaid say they smoke -- making them 21 percentage points more likely to report the habit than those with employer-based insurance, and 17 points more likely than the overall adult average. Smoking appears to be the main health habit that this group struggles with disproportionately -- they are about as likely as others to exercise frequently and eat healthily.


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TOPICS: Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: healthcare; medicaid; smoking
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How do "poor" people afford cigarettes?
1 posted on 04/02/2015 9:23:49 PM PDT by grundle
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I don’t think food stamps can buy ciggies. I know people sell stamps for cash that they can then buy them, but I don’t think alcohol or cigs can directly be bought with them.

I say drug test govt benefit takers. We all haveto take drug tests for JOBS, let them take tests for their BENEFITS that come from govt confiscating money from others.


2 posted on 04/02/2015 9:28:29 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: grundle

They buy them illegally at a much reduced cost. There are plenty of fraternal organizations in my area where you can buy bootleg cigarettes. Soldiers coming up from Fort Bragg can make a lot of money filling their cars with cartons of Marlborough cartons before heading back to New England.


3 posted on 04/02/2015 9:28:36 PM PDT by MSF BU (Support the troops: Join Them.)
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To: grundle

well, if they are living on government monies, they get food stamps, cash, housing assistance, child care assistance, etc.

notice in that list is “cash.” they have to have cash to buy non-food items such as toilet paper, clothes, etc.

and that is where the cigarette fund comes from.


4 posted on 04/02/2015 9:31:21 PM PDT by ican'tbelieveit
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How do "poor" people afford cigarettes?

Expanded Medicaid permits income up to about $33,000 for a family of poor. Not really that poor (much more income than my family).

5 posted on 04/02/2015 9:32:31 PM PDT by steve86 (Prophecies of Maelmhaedhoc OÂ’Morgair (Latin form: Malachy))
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To: grundle

What about the things they don’t list, like alcohol abuse, drug abuse, gambling. What is the big deal, why the effort to make poor people live healthy.........so they can live miserable for a longer time? So they can’t smoke, drink, eat food that tastes good, can’t gamble, for Christ’s sake you’ll have them healthy and alert enough to understand what obama, moochelle and the democrats have done to them and then they’ll commit suicide!


6 posted on 04/02/2015 9:33:49 PM PDT by Mastador1 (I'll take a bad dog over a good politician any day!)
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To: Secret Agent Man
I say drug test govt benefit takers.

Drug tests have been tried in two states and were dropped due to 1) Low positive test rate and 2) High cost of tests.

7 posted on 04/02/2015 9:35:19 PM PDT by steve86 (Prophecies of Maelmhaedhoc OÂ’Morgair (Latin form: Malachy))
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How do "poor" people afford cigarettes?

I know an Asian grocer who installed in a big fresh-lobster and crab tank in his store. I asked who was buying $30/lb Alaskan king crab. He said it was mostly foodstamp users.

8 posted on 04/02/2015 9:41:07 PM PDT by PGR88
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How does "ANYONE" afford cigarettes? LOL!

Article seems to say that more Medicaid smokers actually report that they smoke...in my household, our doctors know that we smoke, we just lie about how much. ; )

We have employer-provided health coverage (actually, earned by us of course, docked from our pay) and NOT "Obamacare"...and everyone frowns on smokers nowadays, so we're in a hugely over-taxed minority, BUT, it still IS legal, and we still live in the "land of the free"!!

I don't know how poor people afford cigarettes...probably from the good will of their friends, or the cheating of the vendors they use government benefits to buy them from.

But I will defend the right of anyone of the proper age to smoke cigarettes in their own home/car/etc...they can lie about it or not as they choose!

9 posted on 04/02/2015 9:48:13 PM PDT by 88keys (awaiting inspiration, but this is no time to go wobbly...)
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To: grundle

They don’t buy and take their medicine. They buy cigarettes instead.


10 posted on 04/02/2015 9:48:49 PM PDT by DannyTN
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To: steve86; Secret Agent Man

Drug testing might make sense. But what’s your plan for when they test positive?

Are you going to send them to Rehab and try to break their addiction? Or are you going to just cut them off of food stamps and just let them starve?


11 posted on 04/02/2015 9:52:04 PM PDT by DannyTN
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RE:”How do “poor” people afford cigarettes?”

Makes me like the high taxes on them, they line up for lottery tickets too,

12 posted on 04/02/2015 9:55:38 PM PDT by sickoflibs (King Obama : 'The debate is over. The time for talk is over. Just follow my commands you serfs""')
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To: DannyTN

Cut them off and let them retest in a month.

Why can’t anything be expected of them? Government places restrictions - literally thousands - of restrictions on what people can and cannot do with government money.

I see zero difference. They are the ones wanting to contract with the government for free benefits.


13 posted on 04/02/2015 9:58:19 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Secret Agent Man

You can if the store is willing to commit fraud.


14 posted on 04/02/2015 10:03:15 PM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: grundle

They don’t have to buy food, housing, cell phone service, so they have money for smokes! All thanks to you and me.


15 posted on 04/02/2015 10:04:07 PM PDT by vpintheak (Call the left what they are - regressive control-freaks)
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To: <1/1,000,000th%

Well sure. But we can make penalties very high for stores that are found committing fraud, and we can strip the benefits for those that commit the fraud. this will reduce fraud in most cases as people are scared if the penalties are high to them.

So because some minor amount of fraud will occur we don’t do it?


16 posted on 04/02/2015 10:09:01 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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How do "poor" people afford cigarettes?

Good question. There are plenty of "street people" i.e. beggars her in the Kona area, and most of them seem to smoke. You do have to wonder, at the hideous cost of the filthy things, why do they need money for food if they have plenty to feed the nicotine habit?

My uber-liberal sister claimed she would never give money to the street people because they would use it for cigarettes and booze.

Probably one of the few things I ever came close to agreement with the deranged old witch about.

17 posted on 04/02/2015 10:18:13 PM PDT by doorgunner69
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To: grundle

They buy generic bags of tobacco, which is fairly cheap, and roll their own. That is what most do in my area.


18 posted on 04/02/2015 10:35:41 PM PDT by stilloftyhenight (http://www.tedcruz.org)
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To: Secret Agent Man
I say drug test govt benefit takers.

When I applied for my life insurance policy a nurse came to my house and took a blood sample that was tested for marijuana, cocaine and nicotine. They wanted to make sure I wasn't lying on my application when I said I was a nonsmoker.

So it's good enough for private companies to drug test their people to make sure they are protecting their investment. I don't see a problem with government doing the same.

19 posted on 04/02/2015 10:42:19 PM PDT by Oshkalaboomboom
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To: Oshkalaboomboom

If these people were applying for a govt JOB they’d be drug tested.


20 posted on 04/02/2015 10:54:51 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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