Indiana And The Culture Wars

Townhall.com ^ | April 2, 2015 | Cal Thomas

[RayChuang88]

Personally, I think one Ted Cruz could use this as Us against "The Man" mantra to ride to victory in 2016, especially taking advantage of the old Silent Majority that won't be so silent anymore.

[TopDog2]

The only reason the left got so worked up about this is that Gov. Pence has been mentioned as a potential Presidential/VP candidate and is conservative. They wanted to take him down before he got any traction.

[Kaslin]

The keywords are has been mentioned. That does not mean he's going to run, or that he will be asked by the nominee, whoever it is, that he will be asked to be the running mate

[arasina]

Proves he’s no crusader for conservativism.

No it doesn't. It merely indicates that he is naive, especially in regard to handling the media. I don't believe he's presidential material either but he is a pretty decent governor.

He took a stand against Common Core and he did not accept state subsidies for Obamacare. Those are both Conservative issues in my book.

[American Constitutionalist]

Just like the Tea Party march on Washington in 2009 Can there be a march on Washington for Religious Liberty ?

Jim Robinson have you thought about a march on Washington for Religious Liberty ?

[Amendment10]

Excellent article by Cal Thomas.

But with all due respect to Mr. Thomas, I cannot believe how many patriots are not mentioning that the state religious freedom laws compliment Section 1 of the 14th Amendment (14A).

14th Amendment, Section 1:

All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States [emphasis added]; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

Note that the “privileges or immunities” term which John Bingham, the main author of Section 1, used in that section is just another way to refer to constitutionally enumerated rights, most of these well-known rights, including 1st Amendment-protected freedom of religious expression, listed in the Bill of Rights.

Also note that not only have low-information, pro-gay activist states already unthinkingly abridged the right of religious expression imo, as evidenced by these states using equality laws to bully and punish Christians business owners, but consider this.

Section 5 of 14A gives Congress the power to enforce all Sections of 14A and is what gave Congress the power to make the Religious Freedom Restoraction Act (RFRA). Otherwise, citizens could argue that the 1st Amendment prohibits Congress from making religion-related laws. (Note that corrupt Congress is probably not going to lift a finger to enforce RFRA.)

[mosesdapoet]

In the News/Activism forum, on a thread titled Indiana And The Culture Wars, Kaslin wrote:
Don’t you think it’s up to the voters of Indiana if they want to reelect him if he runs again and not you?
I sure wouldn’t want you to tell me who to vote for and I wouldn’t tell you who to vote for.

SO MIND YOUR OWN FRIGGEN BUSINESS

WHAT ? If your part of his PRESIDENTIAL campaign and advised him to do this after he’s got talk show host after talk show host sticking up and defending him because you didn’t expect this backlash WHICH YOU SHOULD HAVE EXPECTED . He turns around after they did a great job of getting his name out there. Pense makes them look like a bunch of jerks ! You should be fired !

No matter what he does or says the Left isn’t going to be satisfied. Walmart could have been defused by explaining their pharmacists can refuse to sell birth control pills. The big mouth from computers shooting his mouth off should have been asked about their markets in Iran and other Islamic societies and Sharia law. Barkley get portrayed as a miindless political correctness goose stepper totally ignorant of what that law is about .

Pense should have stood his ground. This has nothing to do with his gubnatorial re-election he’s been a good governor for Indiana and should be re-elected. But not presidential material.

I call’em the way I see them .I try not posting directly to you because I’ve had run-ins with you before. But thus one shows no comity is too much and confirms my suspicions of where your comming from. Another one of the GOPES. You guys are wrong wrong wrong and the reason I won’t shutup.

[drjimmy]

The more exact equivalent is requiring all Jewish restaurants to serve pork so as not to offend anyone who walks in wanting it. Or requiring a devout Jew to cater a pork BBQ when he only serves BBQ Chicken.

That simply isn't true. Discrimination laws everywhere aren't about what you serve, they are about who you serve (and refuse to serve). The people who did the sit-in at the Woolworth's lunch counter in Greensboro, North Carolina, weren't sitting in because they couldn't order the kind of food black people like, it was because they weren't allowed to order at all, on account of not being white.

[Mr Rogers]

The “Gays Must Be Supported” laws are requiring folks to affirmatively support things against their religion by participating in and giving aid to things their religion says they cannot.

These laws require bakers to make cakes celebrating gay marriage, for example. The bakers involved have sold cakes and pastries to gays for years, but they have drawn the line at supporting immoral acts.

Had blacks in the 50s insisted diners support orgies, THEN it would be equivalent.

The gays ARE being served. They can buy cakes. They can buy cookies. They can buy anything they want. But the baker will not support their marriage ceremony with a cake celebrating homosexuality.

There is no equivalence at all to ‘blacks eating lunch’.

Also, blacks are physically black. Being black is not an action. Sticking your penis up a guy’s rump is an action.