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In Defense of Indiana: The anti-RFRA backlash is a perfect storm of hysteria and legal ignorance.
National Review ^ | 03/30/2015 | Rich Lowry

Posted on 03/31/2015 6:39:27 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

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1 posted on 03/31/2015 6:39:27 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Why Indiana?

There’s a federal law along these lines already; and some 19 similar laws in other states.

Why do the pervs have their knickers in a twist over Indiana?


2 posted on 03/31/2015 6:42:01 AM PDT by Arm_Bears (Rope. Tree. Politician. Some assembly required.)
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To: SeekAndFind

The media narrative on LGBTXYZ nonsense distracts from the utter failure of this miserable administration and the democrat party. And every sector of the left is in the game. CEO’s, actors, journalists, professors, pundits, cable TV outlets, late night shows, Hollywood, unions - the usual anti-American vermin.


3 posted on 03/31/2015 6:48:03 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.)
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To: SeekAndFind

As a resident of Indiana I support this action.

Now Governer do something to stop the high crime situation in Indianapolis.

Sarc on/ It’s OK to kill minoritys but not OK to keep cake from gays. /Sarc off


4 posted on 03/31/2015 6:49:02 AM PDT by TNoldman (AN AMERICAN FOR A MUSLIM/BHO FREE AMERICA.)
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To: Arm_Bears

RE: Why Indiana?

There’s a federal law along these lines already; and some 19 similar laws in other states.

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According to radio talk show host Mike Gallagher, all the other states that have their own version of RFRA, also have anti-gay discrimination laws. Indiana doesn’t have that.


5 posted on 03/31/2015 6:49:36 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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RE: Now Governer do something to stop the high crime situation in Indianapolis.

How’s Gary, Indiana doing? It has the dubious distinction as consistently being int he top 10 when it comes to crime in this country (sometimes, even in the top 5 ).


6 posted on 03/31/2015 6:51:03 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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I think it should be mentioned that it does not mean that a practicing homosexual can be denied service to buy flowers at a florist or danish at the bakery. It applies to government forcing people to provide contractual services that would violate their religious/moral beliefs. A baker, for religious/moral purposes, could be just as opposed to providing a cake that depicted heterosexual immoral behavior. We should have the right not to enter into a contract which entails the celebration of a practice that violates one’s sense of religious morality.


7 posted on 03/31/2015 6:53:09 AM PDT by McBuff
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To: Arm_Bears

And some politicians from those very states are calling for boycott of Indiana.


8 posted on 03/31/2015 6:54:02 AM PDT by CommieCutter
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To: SeekAndFind

This may have been expressed here or elsewhere, but as usual with the left we must look one or more levels above the Controversy Of The Week to see the real agenda.

In summary: the rhetoric about gays, discrimination, equality, etc. is meant to distract from the additional, ongoing blurring of the line between the public and private, aka government and free enterprise.

Government does not care about gays. It does not care about gay marriage and it does not care about cakes or photos. It cares about growth at the expense (literally and figuratively) of private businesses. The ballast of regulation or, when necessary, lawsuits and public condemnation, will be brought to bear when pockets of resistance are encountered.

As usual, the most alarming aspects of it are the people who, unpaid and unbidden, take the fatuous ‘cause’ and run with it.


9 posted on 03/31/2015 7:05:34 AM PDT by relictele (Principiis obsta & Finem respice - Resist The Beginnings & Consider The Ends)
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To: SeekAndFind

Legal historians a century from now may be mystified that there was ever a time when Americans believed that a person should not be forced to do something contrary to his religious beliefs when told to do so by the government.


10 posted on 03/31/2015 7:06:21 AM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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Indiana is just plain wrong here.

Jewish bakers should be forced to make cakes for the Aryan Nation.

Black sign makers should be forced to make banners for the KKK.

and

Gay caterers should be forced to provide food and entertainment to Westboro Baptist 'Church'.

Anything less just isn't fair!

11 posted on 03/31/2015 7:07:14 AM PDT by null and void (He who kills a tyrant (i.e. an usurper) to free his country is praised and rewarded ~ Thomas Aquinas)
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This should be good news for Mr. Pence who has been basking in the success of the previous grand Governor, Mr. McDaniels.

A chance to pick up some bragging rights during his watch as chief executive officer of Indiana by working through this well orchestrated and professionally organized adversary.

Not necessary to stand before the camera and wag your finger or make unnecessary statements like “no new taxes”.


12 posted on 03/31/2015 7:13:43 AM PDT by UncleSam (Why must someone else always make the final decisions?)
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To: relictele
In summary: the rhetoric about gays, discrimination, equality, etc. is meant to distract from the additional, ongoing blurring of the line between the public and private, aka government and free enterprise.

Spot on; except I would substitute "obliterating" for "blurring."

13 posted on 03/31/2015 7:14:13 AM PDT by don-o (He will not share His glory and He will NOT be mocked! Blessed be the name of the Lord forever!)
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To: relictele

“The issues are never The Issue. The Revolution is the issue.”


14 posted on 03/31/2015 7:15:58 AM PDT by null and void (He who kills a tyrant (i.e. an usurper) to free his country is praised and rewarded ~ Thomas Aquinas)
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The queers, cross dressers and pedophiles are kicking some Indiana @$$.


15 posted on 03/31/2015 7:16:24 AM PDT by FlingWingFlyer ("I want to be America's first, historical, male first lady." - Slick Willie)
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RE: The queers, cross dressers and pedophiles are kicking some Indiana @$$.

They’re doing something else with it, but I can’t say it. This is a family website :)


16 posted on 03/31/2015 7:17:29 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: Arm_Bears

Why Indiana?

Because it provides a convienient opportunity to cry “outrage!” and let slip the dogs of narrative.

Yes, there are differences between Indiana’s law and others. But as my various Progressive friends on FB have been loudly pointing out, the real issue is this is seen as a middle finger to their agenda. Which cannot be allowed to stand.


17 posted on 03/31/2015 7:18:22 AM PDT by tanknetter
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“Gay caterers should be forced to provide food and entertainment to Westboro Baptist ‘Church’.”

Interesting. There is a high end restaurant in Topeka owned by a pair of gay guys. I wonder if they cater.

But in reality, I don’t think the Indiana law would prevent this. The gay restaurant owner can’t refuse service to the Westboro clan...and a Christian bakery can’t refuse to make a cake for a gay person. No ‘refusal of service’ is prescribed by this law. Rather, the Christian baker cannot be forced to bake a cake for a gay wedding...the gay ‘event’ being against the baker’s religion.

Its a subtle difference...but it keeps us from going down the leftist slippery slope of ‘they will be refused a seat at a restaurant’.


18 posted on 03/31/2015 7:18:26 AM PDT by lacrew
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You’ll see this wherever the State (the instrument of anti-Christ) ever wavers into defense of Christianity.


19 posted on 03/31/2015 7:18:38 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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20 posted on 03/31/2015 7:20:17 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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