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To: PapaNew
I don’t agree. The feds have abandoned the Constitution, yes. But the Constitution and the freedom it represents actually belongs to the states and the people, not to the feds. WE own it, not them.
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AH!.. then UNALIENABLE means something?.....

Question; is unalienable a delusion.?.. it seems that it is..
"The People" CAN indeed alienate their own rights..
-OR- elect others to do it for them.. like they HAVE..

UNLESS they havn't and a cabal of insurgents and traitors have purloined, hornswoggled, and connived ALL POWER AWAY FROM THE STATES.. like; they have..

It seems... the ONLY remedy is REVOLUTION..
but if "the People" generally are cowards not willing to spill their own BLOOD(or their family's)... all is lost..

FREEDOM...... always costs BLOOD... much blood..


45 posted on 03/20/2015 3:11:22 PM PDT by hosepipe (" This propaganda has been edited (specifically) to include some fully orbed hyperbole.. ")
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To: hosepipe

I see it as a step-by-step process that one hopes will not end in blood but for which we are prepared as the price for freedom and the Constitution that protects.

First, a concerted effort to have at least some states (the ones we’re in or will be in) nullify and reject unconstitutional federal acts through a good-faith process of constitutional review by the state. See where that takes us.

Second, hope the Article V COS succeed, but it is a long shot IMO.

Third, if the feds’ response to valid state nullification of unconstitutional federal acts is adversarial and an imminent threat of hostilities, then state cessation and get ready for a war.

Fourth, if no states are willing to engage in a Constitution-based fight for precious freedom against the feds, we would be without a homeland I guess. If every state gave up their freedom and their Constitution without a state-based judicial fight or a shot being fired, then we have little to back us up. It would be fight and die or leave but I don’t know to where.


46 posted on 03/20/2015 3:35:27 PM PDT by PapaNew (The grace of God & freedom always win the debate in the forum of ideas over unjust law & government)
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