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Elon Musk: The Cars You’re Driving Today Will Eventually Be Outlawed
The Daily Caller via Yahoo! News ^ | 17 March 2015 | The Daily Caller

Posted on 03/18/2015 6:41:09 AM PDT by kosciusko51

Tesla Motors CEO Elon Musk thinks every car on the road today — and many more in the future — will eventually be outlawed.

The reason? They require humans to drive.

“In the distant future, [legislators] may outlaw driven cars because they’re too dangerous,” Musk told NVIDIA CEO Jen-Hsun Huang at company’s annual developers conference Tuesday. ”You can’t have a person driving a two-ton death machine.”

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: automobiles
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To: LogicDesigner

I think they are going to have go through years of self-limiting cars before they go full-auto. By that, I mean cars that will limit speed in wet/icy conditions, fog, etc. And reduce general speed and maintain standoff distance in traffic conditions.

I wonder how they plan to account for something like a herd of deer who bust out from cover and run in front of a car. Human peripheral vision and a knowledge of local conditions might get you through whereas a camera/sonar system might not.


101 posted on 03/18/2015 11:52:41 AM PDT by USMCPOP (Father of LCpl. Karl Linn, KIA 1/26/2005 Al Haqlaniyah, Iraq)
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To: LogicDesigner

There is no way this is ever becoming main stream.


102 posted on 03/18/2015 11:56:15 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: USMCPOP
“I think they are going to have go through years of self-limiting cars before they go full-auto. By that, I mean cars that will limit speed in wet/icy conditions, fog, etc. And reduce general speed and maintain standoff distance in traffic conditions.”

You might be right. As time goes on, driverless cars will get better and better at the more difficult situations. It is only a matter of time.

“I wonder how they plan to account for something like a herd of deer who bust out from cover and run in front of a car. Human peripheral vision and a knowledge of local conditions might get you through whereas a camera/sonar system might not.”

An animal in the road is a fairly common condition that any automated car would need to be able to handle from the get go. I don't think multiple animals at once would be much more of a difficult problem to handle. The video I posted in comment #89 sheds some light on how these cars perceive objects.

103 posted on 03/18/2015 12:00:29 PM PDT by LogicDesigner (See my profile for a browser plug-in that shows politicians' money trail while you surf the web.)
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To: LogicDesigner
There is a human psychology element at play here:

There seems to be a lot of ignorance among city dwellers. I live in the mountains on a dirt road. Think how much money it will cost to prepare all rural roads for this city dweller utopian wet dream. How are the cars going to put on chains to drive in the ice and snow? How are the cars going to find the road and not say try to take off on a frozen river. This idea is not totally useless but not much more than 50% practical.

104 posted on 03/18/2015 12:01:14 PM PDT by mountainlion (Live well for those that did not make it back.)
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To: central_va
“There is no way this is ever becoming main stream.”

Like they said about the personal computer, the internet, the cell phone, the horseless carriage.

105 posted on 03/18/2015 12:02:00 PM PDT by LogicDesigner (See my profile for a browser plug-in that shows politicians' money trail while you surf the web.)
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To: LogicDesigner

Ok so how much does all that radar and laser range finders cost? The idea of a car is cheap AFFORDABLE transportation. That stupid Google car probably costs 100k. Whose going to repair that stuff? What if a range finder goes out driving on a suburban road that has kids on it? This is just fantasy mental masturbation.


106 posted on 03/18/2015 12:07:04 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: mountainlion

We don’t have access to natural gas lines or cable tv in the country but we will have robo cars? LOL.


107 posted on 03/18/2015 12:08:18 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: kosciusko51
may outlaw driven cars because they’re too dangerous,

Yes ... freedom is VERY dangerous to tyrants.

108 posted on 03/18/2015 12:08:23 PM PDT by NorthMountain ("The time has come", the Walrus said, "to talk of many things")
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To: mountainlion
“There seems to be a lot of ignorance among city dwellers. I live in the mountains on a dirt road. Think how much money it will cost to prepare all rural roads for this city dweller utopian wet dream.”

I don't see why programming an automated car to know how to drive on a dirt road is an insurmountable challenge.

“How are the cars going to put on chains to drive in the ice and snow?”

They won't, but they can ask the human occupant to do it for them.

“How are the cars going to find the road and not say try to take off on a frozen river. This idea is not totally useless but not much more than 50% practical.”

The cars have a built-in map database that is getting better and better every year. It will be easy for the car to understand the difference between a river and a road.

109 posted on 03/18/2015 12:09:23 PM PDT by LogicDesigner (See my profile for a browser plug-in that shows politicians' money trail while you surf the web.)
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To: central_va
Lots of people in my area are not on the electrical grid either so I suppose the utopians will make them use electric cars also.
110 posted on 03/18/2015 12:11:11 PM PDT by mountainlion (Live well for those that did not make it back.)
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To: LogicDesigner
I don't see why...

Have you ever been out of the city or on a four wheel drive road? These ideas would be so expensive that they would be impractical. It is a good utopian wet dream though.

111 posted on 03/18/2015 12:14:54 PM PDT by mountainlion (Live well for those that did not make it back.)
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To: kosciusko51

FTA: but they lack the software necessary for it to be safe.


I see stories on car thieves walking up to a locked car and using some sort of scanner they open the door and then steal items in the car or the car itself.

The computer OS we use has so many bugs in it would you want to be in a car that needed a software update the first Tuesday of every month and hopes it fixes the problem?

Would you like it knowing that Jeb Bush or any politician or news reader is getting paid off to promote the defective product?


112 posted on 03/18/2015 12:15:39 PM PDT by minnesota_bound
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To: mountainlion

I don’t see why....

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/newfoundland-labrador/burgeo-woman-recounts-21-hour-ordeal-with-kids-in-snowbound-truck-1.2999496

You remind me of Willy Green.


113 posted on 03/18/2015 12:18:02 PM PDT by mountainlion (Live well for those that did not make it back.)
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To: LogicDesigner

Or we can do away with cars altogether and use public transportation.

PS bus drivers hit pedestrians (when they have right of way) in Houston.

PSS When an expensive (but ineffecient) rail system was added, Houston’s solution was to make it illegal to be hit by the new trolley train.

The goal is to do away with personal people movers.


114 posted on 03/18/2015 12:19:03 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (Shickl-Gruber's Big Lie gave us Hussein's Un-Affordable Care act (HUAC).)
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To: central_va
“Ok so how much does all that radar and laser range finders cost? The idea of a car is cheap AFFORDABLE transportation. That stupid Google car probably costs 100k. Whose going to repair that stuff?”

Cameras and laser sensors are cheap. The cutting-edge technology here has nothing to do with the hardware and everything to do with the software.

“What if a range finder goes out driving on a suburban road that has kids on it? This is just fantasy mental masturbation.”

What if the brakes/steering/etc on a normal car goes out driving on a suburban road that has kids on it? Regardless, it would be painfully simple to program these cars to pull over and come to a stop if something malfunctions.

Like I said in my original post, so many people are worried about the one-in-a-million deaths that this might cause and don't worry about the one-in-a-thousand deaths that human drivers cause. It is psychology.

115 posted on 03/18/2015 12:19:28 PM PDT by LogicDesigner (See my profile for a browser plug-in that shows politicians' money trail while you surf the web.)
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To: mountainlion

..it might be old Choo Choo Willy.


116 posted on 03/18/2015 12:19:57 PM PDT by Darksheare (Those who support liberal "Republicans" summarily support every action by same.)
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To: LogicDesigner

Apart from personal injury protection, why would anyone need insurance for a perfect, non-human operated, supercar?


117 posted on 03/18/2015 12:21:49 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (Shickl-Gruber's Big Lie gave us Hussein's Un-Affordable Care act (HUAC).)
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To: mountainlion; LogicDesigner
FYI, robotic off-roading.
118 posted on 03/18/2015 12:26:56 PM PDT by kosciusko51
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To: a fool in paradise
“Apart from personal injury protection, why would anyone need insurance for a perfect, non-human operated, supercar?”

Who said they would be perfect? The premise is that they will be much safer than humans, not perfect.

119 posted on 03/18/2015 12:28:39 PM PDT by LogicDesigner (See my profile for a browser plug-in that shows politicians' money trail while you surf the web.)
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To: mountainlion; LogicDesigner
Sorry, the full segment can be found here.
120 posted on 03/18/2015 12:29:18 PM PDT by kosciusko51
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