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To: MortMan

Punishing a convicted criminal by death (whether or not he was in fact guilty of the crime convicted (irreversibility really does matter)) is unjust because 2000 years ago Jesus Christ took the full punishment on his body and died for that man’s crime. Being punished for a crime that has already been fully paid for is unjust.


85 posted on 03/18/2015 8:59:35 AM PDT by PapaNew (The grace of God & freedom always win the debate in the forum of ideas over unjust law & government)
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To: PapaNew

Christ died for that man’s *sin*, not crime. The crime is against society, and if that society has deemed execution to be the rightful result of committing a specific act, then the criminal has chosen to forfeit his life.

Christ did not absolve people of their responsibility to their society, but rather offered a personal mechanism for redemption for each soul.

When Christ was on the cross, he told the thief on the cross next to him “Tonight you will be with me in paradise.” (Sorry if I have the exact quote wrong.)

He did not save the man’s life, but rescued his soul, as his life was forfeit to the state as punishment for his crimes.


86 posted on 03/18/2015 9:10:30 AM PDT by MortMan (All those in favor of gun control raise both hands!)
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To: PapaNew; MortMan
Being punished for a crime that has already been fully paid for is unjust.

Then open up all the prisons because the prisons are filled with people who have violated one or more of the ten commandments.

Per your logic, the punishment has been fully paid and society has no moral right to incarcerate anyone for anything.

Have you actually thought about your position, or are you just spewing out liberal talking points that you heard somewhere when you were young and stupid?

89 posted on 03/18/2015 9:36:50 AM PDT by P-Marlowe (Saying that ISIL is not Islamic is like saying Obama is not an Idiot.)
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