Carl Sagan's Son Is a 9/11 Truther

Gizmodo ^ | 03/12/2015 | Ashley Feinberg ProfileFollow Ashley Feinberg

[Kid Shelleen]

Carl Sagan is arguably science's biggest rockstar—the ultimate champion for logic and reason. Which makes it all the more painful to find out that his son is a vehement 9/11 truther.

In a recent interview for a radio show called 9/11 Free Fall (already off to a great start), Jeremy Sagan—the younger son of Sagan senior and his first wife, fellow scientist Lynn Margulis—went off on all us closed-minded sheeple. In response to a prompt asking when he first "woke up," Sagan remarks:

[jmacusa]

Your absurd stupid. High intensity heat softening the trusses that carried the weight of the floors. The trusses were welded to the outside supporting steel columns that form the outside perimeter of both buildings, measuring two yards by two hundred yards. Once the steel trusses reached a point where they were no longer able to support the floor above and the building failed. You're an a-hole pal. Don't post to me again, I don't want to hear from an idiot like you., got it?

[MHGinTN]

LOL, nice try.

[Toddsterpatriot]

The thing I don't get about the "controlled demolition" theorists is that they (usually) don't deny that the planes hit the building. But if the planes hit the building, wouldn't that in and of itself be regarded as an act of war, regardless of whether the buildings eventually collapsed?

Exactly! I wanted to nuke somebody, before the towers collapsed.

[BatGuano]

Sagan and his wife were red diaper dopers. They would be thrilled to see the states, one by one, legalize their favorite smoke.

[FreedomStar3028]

That is exactly what happened.

You think that some group could have organized a controlled demolition to coincide with a plane hitting the top floors? That would not even be possible. Do you know how many people were staffed in those buildings? Even if you COULD do it, you would have to do it when not many people were there. Even in the middle of the night there were people there. I don’t know how many, but to take down a building of that size would take weeks of planning, surveying, and careful placing of explosive. This means: noise, and lots and lots of it. Because you would have to drill into the massive steel and concrete support structure. It’s just not possible without even some evidence of an explosive force.....all over the place. Hell if there was explosive used, even the dust cloud that covered New York would come up positive on a spectrograph for thermite, or whatever.

Why cover it up with a plane crash then? Because you wouldn’t, that is literally insane and asinine. They could have just blown the building and said “Osama Bin Laden” did it. Become an architectural engineer and you will see that the building pancaked on it’s own weight. The floors that the planes hit weakened those trusses just enough that a few of them broke causing just a few floors to fall directly down onto the next floor, breaking those trusses, and so on. It’s simple physics. Each floor supported itself. One floor alone could have maybe supported 2 or 3 more, but the entire top 10 floors? They fell like dominoes.

[newfreep]

Since Sagan died in 1996, when were the Kuwait oil fires you mentioned?

[ifinnegan]

Stoner Dad, Stoner son.

[FreedomStar3028]

Are you serious? The gulf war? In 1990?

Saddam Hussein invaded Kuwait, and set fire to the Kuwaiti oil fields. Took quite a bit to put them out.

[MHGinTN]

You’ve got freepmail. I will not debate this on an open thread. Too many brainless twit goons like the one trying to sound tough cussing me just above your post.

[rollo tomasi]

Apparently the son reaped the fruits of the dad's recreational treats and I guess study habits treats as well.

[windcliff]

ping

[newfreep]

Good grief...my Alzheimer’s has set in.

[jmacusa]

He also much have studied at the Rosie O’Donnel School Of Metallurgy.Graduating sum cum laude no doubt.

[FreedomStar3028]

Probably not. I forget things all the time, they are at the edge of my mind. Usually takes another person to bring them back.

[Nepeta]

I think it’s more like “Carl Sagan WAS arguably science’s biggest rockstar—the ultimate champion for logic and reason.”

No, he wasn't. He made an absurd statement about unusual claims requiring unusually thorough proofs, which is utter hogwash, pure emotion!

He also used to prime himself for writing by doing pot.

[jmacusa]

Can’t taken being wrong, can you little boy?

[rollo tomasi]

Darn it, sorry, I guess that one site does not like hotlinking. Let me try this one



"I do not consider myself a religious person in the usual sense, but there is a religious aspect to some highs. The heightened sensitivity in all areas gives me a feeling of communion with my surroundings, both animate and inanimate."

Sounds like every LSD user to me; wonder if he pushed for the legality of that.

[jmacusa]

Sagan once said some of his most brilliant insights regarding his observations in astro psychics came to hm as a result of smoking pot.

[safeasthebanks]

Did you happen to go look at what our “friend” actually thinks happened? It involves a “secret weapon” and “dustifying” buildings. Absolutely certifiable!!!

[jmacusa]

Yeah, the guy is way out there. Now he wants to take ‘’Freedom Star 3028, who sounds like a very knowledgeable man, probably an engineer I'm guessing to ''the woodshed'' in a private reply. I'd bet the farm Mr ''MHgTn'' or whatever his named is about to get schooled and them some!