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To: Ray76

“Citizen of the United States at Birth” is one category and “Naturalized U.S. Citizen” is a completely different category.
There is no such category in U.S. Law: constitutional, statutory, common or administrative law as “Citizen by Birth.”


115 posted on 03/12/2015 5:37:05 PM PDT by Nero Germanicus (PALIN/CRUZ: 2016)
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To: Nero Germanicus
“Citizen of the United States at Birth” is one category and “Naturalized U.S. Citizen” is a completely different category. There is no such category in U.S. Law: constitutional, statutory, common or administrative law as “Citizen by Birth.”

Hair splitting and Word Games. I think the Supreme Court summed up the point succinctly in Wong Kim Ark.

A person born out of the jurisdiction of the United States can only become a citizen by being naturalized,...by authority of Congress, exercised ... by declaring certain classes of persons to be citizens, as in the enactments conferring citizenship upon foreign-born children of citizens...

The Supreme court just out and out says that when Congress gives citizenship to the foreign born children of citizens, it constitutes "naturalization."

137 posted on 03/12/2015 7:57:08 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp
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To: Nero Germanicus
> “Citizen of the United States at Birth” is one category and “Naturalized U.S. Citizen” is a completely different category. There is no such category in U.S. Law: constitutional, statutory, common or administrative law as “Citizen by Birth.”

I include your entire post to illustrate the error:

Citizen of the United States at Birth” is one category and “Naturalized U.S. Citizen” is a completely different category.

There is no such category in U.S. Law: constitutional, statutory, common or administrative law as “Citizen by Birth.”

“Naturalized U.S. Citizen” includes those granted citizenship at birth by Congress, proven by naturalization statute Pub.L. 82–414 § 301(a)(7); 66 Stat. 236.

In addition to Congressional Act, there is the Supreme Court:

“A person born out of the jurisdiction of the United States can only become a citizen by being naturalized, either by treaty, as in the case of the annexation of foreign territory, or by authority of congress, exercised either by declaring certain classes of persons to be citizens, as in the enactments conferring citizenship upon foreign-born children of citizens, or by enabling foreigners individually to become citizens by proceedings in the judicial tribunals, as in the ordinary provisions of the naturalization acts.” – U.S. v. Wong Kim Ark


Citizen at birth is not the same as citizen by birth.

Roll again my long time Obot adversary. Despite your efforts to gull conservatives, to misleadingly entice them with a potential candidate, Obama is not eligible.

145 posted on 03/12/2015 10:14:54 PM PDT by Ray76 (Obama says, "Unlike my mum, Ruth has all the documents needed to prove who Mark's father was.")
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