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THE GREAT TERRI SCHIAVO DIVIDE
First Things ^ | 3/6/15 | Wesley J.Smith

Posted on 03/06/2015 7:39:49 AM PST by wagglebee

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Perhaps the reason we still react so viscerally to Terri Schiavo—why she remains an open cultural sore—is that our consciences are haunted by the enduring memory of her smiling face.

We will NEVER forget!

1 posted on 03/06/2015 7:39:49 AM PST by wagglebee
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2 posted on 03/06/2015 7:41:12 AM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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3 posted on 03/06/2015 7:41:47 AM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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4 posted on 03/06/2015 7:42:18 AM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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I remember Jeb Bush was for keeping her alive until a pathetic little state judge ordered her death and he backed off like a scalded dog. If he had just sent two state troopers to the hospital to enforce insertion of the feeding tube he wouldn’t have to pander to illegal aliens for votes.


5 posted on 03/06/2015 7:48:06 AM PST by odawg
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“fact, the left and the mainstream media are now using Terri’s case as a cudgel with which to damage the presidential chances of Republican Jeb Bush–who, as governor of Florida, sided strongly with the Schindlers.”

Yes, he did. A point in his favor.

But, he ultimately backed down when it came time to let her die or save her.

It could have turned in to a shooting war of some kind with two different law enforcement agencies each with opposite orders.


6 posted on 03/06/2015 7:48:12 AM PST by ifinnegan
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Republican Jeb Bush–who, as governor of Florida, sided strongly with the Schindlers.

Not strongly enough. He was a wimp. I watched the situation very closely and Jebbie could have saved her. He could have said screw everyone and pulled that woman out of her death spiral.

Jebbie is the kind of guy who while walking around a lake sees two young kids drowning in 4 feet of water near the edge of the lake. He is standing mere feet from the waters edge and could step in and save them. But he does not. Why? Because he sees a sign that says "Swimming Against the Law".

I am outraged that this spineless pu$$y is not being laughed out of any election for any office. Let's not forget that besides his cowardice he like the entire rest of his family are parasites sucking at the host of government and ALL have had their hands in the taxpayers pockets. Almost all the Bush family and the Walker family for that matter think that any local, state and federal treasury is their own piggy bank. Beside that they trade their name and connection to get themselves on boards of companies and acquire stock in such companies. Someone out to count the pump and dump deals they have enriched themselves on. It is a great deal if you can get it. I say enough of these slugs!

7 posted on 03/06/2015 7:54:15 AM PST by isthisnickcool (NO MORE IRS!)
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——He could have said screw everyone and pulled that woman out of her death spiral.——

now now, there is no evidence that is true.

He could have allowed her to hooked to life support for years and years, but not pull her from a death spiral


8 posted on 03/06/2015 7:56:48 AM PST by bert ((K.E.; N.P.; GOPc.;+12, 73, ..... Obama is public enemy #1)
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Jeb Bush–who, as governor of Florida, sided strongly with the Schindlers.

Until the second meaningful action was required. Way to go, Jebbie.

9 posted on 03/06/2015 7:57:41 AM PST by Colonel_Flagg (You're either in or in the way.)
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I have always disagreed with Wesley Smith on his opinion of Jeb. Jeb ultimately adopted the role of Pilate and washed his hands of the whole thing.

Jeb was constitutionally obligated to save Terri, he had the authority and power to save Terri and he let her die. That makes him complicit.

10 posted on 03/06/2015 7:58:45 AM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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Jeb played with Terri’s life, for political gain. He only spoke up on her behalf when he perceived a political advantage in doing so. When the skewed polls came out, claiming (falsely) that the majority of likely voters supported torturing her to death, he reneged on his promise, and allowed for her to be murdered. If he had known that most people are opposed to torturing people to death for being severely and/or cognitively disabled, he would have kept his promise and done his job. Right or wrong had no bearing on his choices. If he has any regret about his choice to stand back and watch her being tortured to death, it’s only that it cost him some votes. He doesn’t care what it cost Terri, her family, or the countless victims who have been Schiavoed, thanks in part to him.


11 posted on 03/06/2015 8:03:28 AM PST by BykrBayb (Where there is life, there is hope. - Terri Schiavo ~ Þ)
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Have you given up food for Lent?


12 posted on 03/06/2015 8:06:24 AM PST by BykrBayb (Where there is life, there is hope. - Terri Schiavo ~ Þ)
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Which is why I will NEVER vote for another member of the Bush family for ANYTHING.
13 posted on 03/06/2015 8:12:03 AM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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NEVER NEVER NEVER! Jebbie does not have a snowball’s chance in hell. When it mattered, Jebbie ran.


14 posted on 03/06/2015 8:13:29 AM PST by yldstrk
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He could have allowed her to hooked to life support for years and years, but not pull her from a death spiral

Whether willfully or through ignorance you are totally and completely WRONG in this statement.

Terri WAS NOT on "life support," in fact, she received no medical care at all for YEARS (she was not even given antibiotics for a urinary tract infection). Terri was subsisting on nutrition and hydration, something that ALL people need.

As for a "death spiral," we are ALL in a sort of "death spiral" from the moment we are born, it is inevitable - we can do things to postpone death, but we cannot avoid it. Terri's life expectancy BY ALL ACCOUNTS (even her murderers) was that she would live another thirty or so years with her injuries.

15 posted on 03/06/2015 8:18:34 AM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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She was not hooked to any machines. She was able to breathe on her own and swallow her own saliva.


16 posted on 03/06/2015 8:21:03 AM PST by erkelly
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I always thought, they claim she would choke to death if she ate so they won’t feed her and instead let her die.

Makes no sense.


17 posted on 03/06/2015 8:48:27 AM PST by Beowulf9
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There was no life support. And no death spiral. You must be confused.


18 posted on 03/06/2015 10:39:52 AM PST by surroundedbyblue (Bitter clinger & creepy-ass cracker)
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It seems like just yesterday, sometimes.


19 posted on 03/06/2015 10:59:07 AM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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Polls tend to show public support for the fatal outcome.

I have to wonder, is that support based on the actual facts in the case, or on the construct the media tried to build around it? As I recall, the media consistently referred to her as "brain dead" (she wasn't), or as "dying" (she wasn't), or otherwise tried to make it sound like some semblance of life was being artificially maintained in what was essentially a corpse.

Terri was impaired, not dead.

I wonder if the public would be so supportive of the fatal outcome if the actual facts of the case were widely known, instead of the narrative the media put out?

20 posted on 03/06/2015 3:07:51 PM PST by exDemMom (Current visual of the hole the US continues to dig itself into: http://www.usdebtclock.org/)
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