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To: Chris in VA

Here’s something that I’m trusting WILL CHANGE as a result of this. I’ll just give you the example from my own personal details, so you know what I’m talking about.

I currently pay for 150 Mbps down and 20 Mbps up for Internet service at $100 a month. And I get Netflix, and they currently pay for their Internet service (both speed and capacity) for all the customers they are streaming to. I can’t tell you their cost on that, because I’m not privy to it. I would imagine that they’re paying one heck of a bill, but that’s their business and they DO HAVE TO pay for the service to have each of their customers access it at the right speed and for the capacity to serve all their customers.

So far, so good. That’s the way it’s supposed to be. I pay for my access at whatever level I want and need (some pay a lot less for less capacity and speed, but that’s their choice). And Netflix pays for their service and what they need.

Each of us pay for increasing levels of service at an increasing price ... which again ... is the way it should be and the way it is.

AND ... I will note that my 100 Mbps down is WAY OVER NECESSARY SPEED AND CAPACITY to get the Netflix movies. One only needs about 15 Mbps down to do that at HIGH RESOLUTION and it will work fine. I have IN EXCESS ... about 135 Mbps ... that is just idle and available if necessary!

NOW ... here is what I am confident will be DECLARED ILLEGAL by this action at the FCC. It is the “THIRD CHARGE” being levied, in which a telecommunications company attempts to “hold their customers hostage” to force Netflix to PAY THEM MORE, or elese their own customers at that telecommunications company won’t get the service, even when they have PAID FULLY FOR THE SERVICE!

This is what Comcast did with Netflix in which they made it so that their OWN CUSTOMERS could not get Netflix without having problems. It didn’t matter if the customer PAID FULLY for 150 Mbps down for a 15 Mbps movie, Comcast THROTTLED IT to make sure that their own customers at Comcast would COMPLAIN TO NETFLIX!!

SO ... what Netflix ended up being EXTORTED TO DO by Comcast is paying several millions of dollars to get a “special deal” in which Comcast would take off the THROTTLING of their own customers (never mind they paid fully for the full capacity of their own accounts) and they created a SPEED LANE for Netflix.

The day after Netflix PAYS THE EXTORTION all the customers of Comcast got their movies without any problem ... LOL ...

NOW ... “THAT” is what will be ILLEGAL ... namely those THIRD CHARGES (beyond what Netflix already paid for full access and speed and beyond what the customer paid for full access and speed) ... and it will make THROTTLING ILLEGAL and it will make SPEED LANES ILLEGAL!

And for that, I say ... Good for them! ... :-) ...


5 posted on 03/01/2015 6:41:06 PM PST by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: Star Traveler

The government will claim control over content.

“No?”

What words and images are not allowed on Network TV?

Yeah, the government WILL try to exert control over what is available.


19 posted on 03/01/2015 7:08:31 PM PST by Bryan24 (When in doubt, move to the right..........)
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To: Star Traveler
Im sorry but im not sure most grasp committed information rate and burst rate.. data does not flow an a steady state...

the typical way its explained is with the analogy of a bucket of water.let say your have a CIR for water.. it fill your bucket at a steady state.. but your do not use the water at a steady state.. you use it in burst.. the fastest you can drain from the bucket is you burst rate.. this is faster then your CIR.. keep running at you burst rate and you empty the bucket.. now your running at the slower CIR rate the rate that bucket can fill at..the effect is your download rate becomes throttle back ....

but still there's another thing called over-burst...

the Internet pipeline come to your house is a shared media with other people and as long as no one else is using a shared media the company wants to let you use that empty bandwhith
They'll start feeding you data into your bucket at your higher burst rate in other words faster than your Cir because no one else is using it on the back side so they can fill that bucket as fast as you want.. however that overburst to you is marked discard eligible in other words if anybody else needs data you get drop back to the slower speed ...that over burst is flying standby

And the kicker.. this just apply on your connection to your ISP..because the ISP does not own the Internet end to end so they can only guarantee up to their door they cannot predict what the traffic is on the overall internet no more than you can predict what the traffic will be on the freeway with everybody going for it..your ISP the best is what's called an AS autonomous system in the Internet is made up of multiple interconnected AS’s that your traffic might pass through

The flip side these content providers like Netflix...if the stream... they need a guaranteed bandwidth all CIR in the pipe end to end passing through multiple AS that your ISP is no control over to begin with and they have to come first and their bandwidth hogs they don't play well on shared media there data is special has to pay a higher rate..

this is a highly highly highly simplified version of what really goes on I'm not going to get into multicast QoS traffic shaping policies inter AS routing all the different formulas .... traffic shaping is a highly complex subject this is just insane what they're trying to pass ...

35 posted on 03/01/2015 7:44:08 PM PST by tophat9000 (An Eye for an Eye, a Word for a Word...nothing more)
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To: Star Traveler

You’re asking the Feds to fix a local monopoly granted by your local government. Don’t trade away your liberty. The Internet is working just fine without FedGov’s dirty hands.


52 posted on 03/01/2015 8:15:03 PM PST by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: Star Traveler; All

This Star Traveler trusts government. you star traveerl trust government . you are a socialist and should be banned for pushing this Soros propaganda . Unbelievable idiocy. Anyone who trusts government to do anything much less “fix” the Internet is a complete and total idiot.


67 posted on 03/01/2015 9:53:39 PM PST by Democrat_media (The media is the problem. reporters are just democrat political activists posing as reporters)
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