[backwoods-engineer]

It’s an “armor piercing round”. You can shoot through an elementary school with it. I’ve seen one round blow up a school bus full of special needs kids. Why does anyone need a special needs school bus killer bullet?

I know you're parroting them and making fun, but that stuff makes my blood boil. They are PURPOSELY LYING and impugning our motives. This crap is going to lead to a civil war!

[AppyPappy]

Of course they are doing that.
I saw someone shoot one of these bullets and it went back in time and killed a Pharaoh. Why would anyone need a time traveling Pharaoh killing bullet?
It sounds absurd but that’s the hook. If you can get people to accept your premise, you can lead them by the nose to your conclusion.
It’s like this conversation I had with someone:
Them: Why do you need an assault weapon? They are solely made to kill lots of people.(faulty premise)
Me: The police have them. Do they need to kill lots of us?
If I can get you to agree with me that citizens don’t need a specific type of bullet that can pierce a vest, I can get you to ban all bullets that I can prove will pierce a vest?