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To: NewHampshireDuo

“which means users, hackers, tinkerers, artists, and knowledge seekers can continue to innovate and experiment on the Internet, using any app or service they please, without having to get their ISP’s permission first.”

Is this an issue for residential customers? I use business class service since I telework so much and with that, I’ve never encountered any problems from the isp.


10 posted on 02/26/2015 3:53:43 PM PST by DonaldC (A nation cannot stand in the absence of religious principle.)
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To: DonaldC

Oh cool no firewall rule no QOS... its the internet.. with no speed limit, stop signs, or traffic lights or even cops at the intersections..... gonna be hell of a death toll interspersed with massive traffic jams from hell....

Its IP networking by numbskulls


15 posted on 02/26/2015 4:05:44 PM PST by tophat9000 (An Eye for an Eye, a Word for a Word...nothing more)
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To: DonaldC

As a residential customer, I’ve never come across any such thing.


20 posted on 02/26/2015 4:13:13 PM PST by JimSEA
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To: DonaldC

I have a residential account. Heck, I have the internet connected to ham radio software, run a small chat server, use Tor, use Retroshare - never an issue.


21 posted on 02/26/2015 4:18:11 PM PST by NewHampshireDuo
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To: DonaldC

That’s the problem, they just fixed something that wasn’t broken. I telecommute too...never happens.

This has made the Internet dumber - not better. There’s a thing called Quality of Service (QoS), it is technology that makes sure that video conferencing, voice-over-IP calls, etc. all take precedence over other packets coming through the network. If this wasn’t done the experience would suck.

This basically means that something businesses do internally to improve their packet efficiency is something we’re not allowed to have in our private residence. It is smart packet routing, hence my statement that it just made the Internet dumber.

Now, if your neighbor is doing loads of bit-torrent downloads that don’t require a constant stream, they’ll get the same priority of packets as you do even though you’re trying to watch live streaming content. Packets don’t need to be treated the same. My email, general web pages, etc. don’t need to be guaranteed at the same speed.

The lie is that this is for the little people, keeping the internet the way it is. What if technology and innovation shows that something is better? It’s now not allowed. Remember, these are private companies that have built these network infrastructures. They own them and WANT to provide a good service to customers. Now the FCC can tell them what to do with their own property, dictating the direction of network technology.

Now they have their fingers around it, it’ll only be a matter of time before the other penny drops. Want to start a blog? You need a permit. Your internet costs just went up? FCC fees. Lawsuits everywhere over “claimed” discrimination of bandwidth manipulation. Guess who’s going to pay for all that? There are companies that set up servers that cache certain content (very intelligently) to *improve* the user experience. These businesses may be violating the law immediately - purely by what they do. You may not be able to allow certain things to be faster but you can just slow everything down to the same speed - it’s like socialism for the Internet.

This is the tip of the iceberg. The FCC is dictating what a company can do technically with its OWN PROPERTY. Let that settle in. It was about taxes and control, done under the veil of “protecting us from greedy corporations”. I don’t think many realize how big a hammer came down today.


28 posted on 02/26/2015 4:38:07 PM PST by fuzzylogic (welfare state = sharing consequences of poor moral choices among everybody)
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To: DonaldC
“which means users, hackers, tinkerers, artists, and knowledge seekers can continue to innovate and experiment on the Internet, using any app or service they please, without having to get their ISP’s permission first.”

Is this an issue for residential customers?...

The article is full of nonsense. No sane person thinks that the FCC is going to dismantle all of the restrictions on "hackers, tinkerers...and knowledge seekers" that currently exist. Right now the government expects ISPs to do their bidding, and for example, terminate service to people using the internet for illegal activities, or activities that the government believes infringe someone's copyright, or activities that cause headaches for other parties. That's why, for example, the federal government expects internet companies to keep records and respond to subpoenas regarding their customers.

The idea that somehow more government regulation will make it easier for "hackers" to do their thing is ridiculous.

I propose a simple experiment - a new public utility ISP which is 100% anonymous. Customers prepay and the ISP retains no records of any of its users. And the ISP has no restrictions whatsoever on what its users do. It would be truly net-neutral for all of its customers.

I'm not going to hold my breath to see if the FCC thinks that is a good idea.

36 posted on 02/26/2015 5:03:00 PM PST by freeandfreezing
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To: DonaldC

It wasn’t a problem before.

But what are these new “Internet Conduct Rules”?

Which posts will violate those rules?

Images of “Cross in piss”?
Pornography?
Or perhaps entire websites if they happen to disagree with these new FCC regula


38 posted on 02/26/2015 5:09:57 PM PST by 21twelve (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2185147/posts It is happening again.)
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