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DOES ISLAM INEVITABLY LEAD TO VIOLENCE?
The Gospel Coalition ^ | 2/19/15 | Caleb Greggsen

Posted on 02/22/2015 11:57:10 AM PST by SoFloFreeper

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A better question to ask is whether or not there is a legitimate place for violence within Islamic tradition. The answer is yes. The primary means of determining this right in Islam is power. According to Islamic thinking, if you are in power and succeeding, then God is clearly blessing and supporting you. If you are not, then God has chosen not to bless you. Of the first four caliphs after Mohammed, three of them were violently murdered, either by assassination, mob, or in battle, all by “fellow” Muslims who supported other leaders. The first two Islamic dynasties came into power by slaughtering those who held power before them. Islam’s history only gets bloodier from there, since might makes right in a way that is foreign to the Judeo-Christian world. Despite the shocking number of Christians or secular Westerners being killed by Muslims, Muslims are killing even greater numbers of other Muslims.
1 posted on 02/22/2015 11:57:10 AM PST by SoFloFreeper
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To: SoFloFreeper

It doesn’t lead to violence. It begins with violence. It is the personification of pure violence and hate. It has no other reason to exist other than to be violent and beget violence.


2 posted on 02/22/2015 12:08:04 PM PST by samtheman
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To: SoFloFreeper

It has before.

It is now.

Pretty likely it’ll do so in the future.

There is, however a sure fire solution.

That solution surprisingly involves.....fire.


3 posted on 02/22/2015 12:12:52 PM PST by Da Coyote
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To: SoFloFreeper

I keep hearing that this is Islamist Fundamentalism, I think this would be better called Islamist Resubmission after a breaking with Islamic Teaching.

If you haven’t noticed, Islamists before even being radicalized didn’t follow the tenets of their faith.

In Islam, there is one get out of hell free card, Jihad.


4 posted on 02/22/2015 12:13:07 PM PST by dila813
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To: SoFloFreeper
"How dreadful are the curses which Mohammedanism lays on its votaries! Besides the fanatical frenzy, which is as dangerous in a man as hydrophobia in a dog, there is this fearful fatalistic apathy. The effects are apparent in many countries, improvident habits, slovenly systems of agriculture, sluggish methods of commerce and insecurity of property exist wherever the followers of the Prophet rule or live. A degraded sensualism deprives this life of its grace and refinement, the next of its dignity and sanctity. The fact that in Mohammedan law every woman must belong to some man as his absolute property, either as a child, a wife, or a concubine, must delay the final extinction of slavery until the faith of Islam has ceased to be a great power among men.

Individual Moslems may show splendid qualities, but the influence of the religion paralyzes the social development of those who follow it. No stronger retrograde force exists in the world. Far from being moribund, Mohammedanism is a militant and proselytizing faith. It has already spread throughout Central Africa, raising fearless warriors at every step, and were it not that Christianity is sheltered in the strong arms of science, the science against which it (Islam) has vainly struggled, the civilization of modern Europe might fall, as fell the civilization of ancient Rome.”


Winston Churchill

5 posted on 02/22/2015 12:13:34 PM PST by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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It doesn’t lead to violence. It begins with violence.

samtheman for the win.

6 posted on 02/22/2015 12:18:34 PM PST by null and void (People who deny history are trying to recreate it.)
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To: SoFloFreeper

Islam is violence. Starts with and ends with. That is if it ever ends.


7 posted on 02/22/2015 12:19:59 PM PST by mulligan (I)
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To: SoFloFreeper

Islam was born in violence.

Mohamed grew Islam through conquest and violence.

Islam persecuted and conquered Jewish and Christian territory for 400 years before Catholics decided it was time to retaliate.


8 posted on 02/22/2015 12:28:32 PM PST by G Larry (I'm not here to make liberals happy.)
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To: SoFloFreeper
This is a little easier to understand....
9 posted on 02/22/2015 12:29:47 PM PST by high info voter (kwanzaa)
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To: SoFloFreeper

Yes, it’s what the Koran tells believers to do.


10 posted on 02/22/2015 12:30:26 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: SoFloFreeper
DOES ISLAM INEVITABLY LEAD TO VIOLENCE?

Yes.
By now that should be obvious.

Easy question.
Next?

11 posted on 02/22/2015 12:39:07 PM PST by publius911 (Formerly Publius6961)
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To: Da Coyote

Yes; Fire, Nuclear Fire.
Lots of it.


12 posted on 02/22/2015 12:43:13 PM PST by 5th MEB (Progressives in the open; --- FIRE FOR EFFECT!!)
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How many muslims disagree with the implementation of global sharia?

Virtually none. Otherwise one would be viewed as an apostate to the quran and hence, to allah.

Even Jordanian King Abdullah II and Egyptian President Abdel Fattah el-Sisi (”good muslims”) are purposely nebulous on this view, but at their cores would not deny it.


13 posted on 02/22/2015 12:45:12 PM PST by onedoug
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To: SoFloFreeper
"Does Islam Inevitably Lead to Violence?"

As sunrise leads to day...

14 posted on 02/22/2015 1:12:39 PM PST by Redbob (W.W.J.B.D.: "What Would Jack Bauer Do)
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To: 5th MEB

I’m with you: it’s time for the “green glowing glassy plain” approach to the muslim world...


15 posted on 02/22/2015 1:13:37 PM PST by Redbob (W.W.J.B.D.: "What Would Jack Bauer Do)
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To: SoFloFreeper

It’s an inherently violent ideology. It gives permission to rape maim burn and murder.


16 posted on 02/22/2015 1:29:00 PM PST by I want the USA back (Media: completely irresponsible. Complicit in the destruction of this country.)
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To: SoFloFreeper

Read an analysis of Christianity, Judaism and Islam recently that was in response to oblamer’s “high horse” remark.

The author summed up his points by saying that violence was incidental to Christianity and Judaism but fundamental to Islam.

Only victims of America’s public schools would argue with that.


17 posted on 02/22/2015 1:40:19 PM PST by Let's Roll (Before it can get any better it has to stop getting worse - vote 4 most conservative available)
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The Plague of Islam

If the civilized world is to survive, it must recognize Islam for what it really is: It’s not a religion, form of government, or anything recognizable to the civilized mind. Islam is a disease, an incurable disease of the mind that is highly contagious among the feeble minded and is now spreading among the world’s feeble minded at an epidemic rate. As with any disease, one can’t reason with this disease, negotiate with it, or treat in any manner other than how one would treat any other incurable disease.

Past efforts to contain this disease have failed. Now, carriers of this Plague of Islam must be eradicated wherever they're found, for if they're not, this disease will eventually end not just Western Civilization, but it will undo over 5,000 years of human civilization.

18 posted on 02/22/2015 1:48:37 PM PST by DJ Taylor (Once again our country is at war, and once again the Democrats have sided with our enemy.)
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To: samtheman

Islam is violence.


19 posted on 02/22/2015 1:53:07 PM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose o f a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: SoFloFreeper

There can only be peace when there is only Islam.......

you figure it out.....


20 posted on 02/22/2015 2:20:38 PM PST by Lurkinanloomin (Know Islam, No Peace- No Islam, Know Peace)
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