Posted on 02/18/2015 6:39:57 PM PST by QT3.14
On Monday's Morning Joe on MSNBC, Joe Scarborough suggested that having a literal interpretation of the Bible could lead Christians to violence in a similar manner as radical Islam. Oddly enough, Scarborough hoped to avoid being "torn to shreds online" by equating the two, but made the comparison anyway.
The morning's panel centered on the violence of ISIS and its undeniable ties to the tenets of Islam, but Scarborough felt compelled to find a link between Islam and Christianity. He said:
A very crude way to put it is, this would be the ultra fundamentalist Christians who believe every single word of the Bible has to be interpreted in the exact ways which could also lead to some violence.
(Excerpt) Read more at truthrevolt.org ...
For I am persuaded, that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor powers, nor things present, nor things to come,
Nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature, shall be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord.
I think that also includes murdering Muslims. They may kill us but they cannot separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord.
could lead Christians to violence
Ahhh, yes, maybe “could” but when has it last happened?
Yeah, well if the super genius “theologian” Joe Scarborough says it, then.... uh, you know....well....
Every word of the Bible is true and correct. It is inerrant and infallible!
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Chicago Statement on Biblical Inerrancy with Exposition
Background
The “Chicago Statement on Biblical Inerrancy” was produced at an international Summit Conference of evangelical leaders, held at the Hyatt Regency O’Hare in Chicago in the fall of 1978. This congress was sponsored by the International Council on Biblical Inerrancy. The Chicago Statement was signed by nearly 300 noted evangelical scholars, including James Boice, Norman L. Geisler, John Gerstner, Carl F. H. Henry, Kenneth Kantzer, Harold Lindsell, John Warwick Montgomery, Roger Nicole, J. I. Packer, Robert Preus, Earl Radmacher, Francis Schaeffer, R. C. Sproul, and John Wenham.
The ICBI disbanded in 1988 after producing three major statements: one on biblical inerrancy in 1978, one on biblical hermeneutics in 1982, and one on biblical application in 1986. The following text, containing the “Preface” by the ICBI draft committee, plus the “Short Statement,” “Articles of Affirmation and Denial,” and an accompanying “Exposition,” was published in toto by Carl F. H. Henry in God, Revelation And Authority, vol. 4 (Waco, Tx.: Word Books, 1979), on pp. 211-219. The nineteen Articles of Affirmation and Denial, with a brief introduction, also appear in A General Introduction to the Bible, by Norman L. Geisler and William E. Nix (Chicago: Moody Press, rev. 1986), at pp. 181-185. An official commentary on these articles was written by R. C. Sproul in Explaining Inerrancy: A Commentary (Oakland, Calif.: ICBI, 1980), and Norman Geisler edited the major addresses from the 1978 conference, in Inerrancy (Grand Rapids: Zondervan, 1980).
Clarification of some of the language used in this Statement may be found in the 1982 Chicago Statement on Biblical Hermeneutics
The Chicago Statement on Biblical Inerrancy
Preface
The authority of Scripture is a key issue for the Christian church in this and every age. Those who profess faith in Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior are called to show the reality of their discipleship by humbly and faithfully obeying God’s written Word. To stray from Scripture in faith or conduct is disloyalty to our Master. Recognition of the total truth and trustworthiness of Holy Scripture is essential to a full grasp and adequate confession of its authority.
The following Statement affirms this inerrancy of Scripture afresh, making clear our understanding of it and warning against its denial. We are persuaded that to deny it is to set aside the witness of Jesus Christ and of the Holy Spirit and to refuse that submission to the claims of God’s own Word which marks true Christian faith. We see it as our timely duty to make this affirmation in the face of current lapses from the truth of inerrancy among our fellow Christians and misunderstandings of this doctrine in the world at large.
This Statement consists of three parts: a Summary Statement, Articles of Affirmation and Denial, and an accompanying Exposition. It has been prepared in the course of a three-day consultation in Chicago. Those who have signed the Summary Statement and the Articles wish to affirm their own conviction as to the inerrancy of Scripture and to encourage and challenge one another and all Christians to growing appreciation and understanding of this doctrine. We acknowledge the limitations of a document prepared in a brief, intensive conference and do not propose that this Statement be given creedal weight. Yet we rejoice in the deepening of our own convictions through our discussions together, and we pray that the Statement we have signed may be used to the glory of our God toward a new reformation of the Church in its faith, life, and mission.
We offer this Statement in a spirit, not of contention, but of humility and love, which we purpose by God’s grace to maintain in any future dialogue arising out of what we have said. We gladly acknowledge that many who deny the inerrancy of Scripture do not display the consequences of this denial in the rest of their belief and behavior, and we are conscious that we who confess this doctrine often deny it in life by failing to bring our thoughts and deeds, our traditions and habits, into true subjection to the divine Word.
We invite response to this statement from any who see reason to amend its affirmations about Scripture by the light of Scripture itself, under whose infallible authority we stand as we speak. We claim no personal infallibility for the witness we bear, and for any help which enables us to strengthen this testimony to God’s Word we shall be grateful.
The Draft Committee
A Short Statement
1. God, who is Himself Truth and speaks truth only, has inspired Holy Scripture in order thereby to reveal Himself to lost mankind through Jesus Christ as Creator and Lord, Redeemer and Judge. Holy Scripture is God’s witness to Himself.
2. Holy Scripture, being God’s own Word, written by men prepared and superintended by His Spirit, is of infallible divine authority in all matters upon which it touches: it is to be believed, as God’s instruction, in all that it affirms: obeyed, as God’s command, in all that it requires; embraced, as God’s pledge, in all that it promises.
3. The Holy Spirit, Scripture’s divine Author, both authenticates it to us by His inward witness and opens our minds to understand its meaning.
4. Being wholly and verbally God-given, Scripture is without error or fault in all its teaching, no less in what it states about God’s acts in creation, about the events of world history, and about its own literary origins under God, than in its witness to God’s saving grace in individual lives.
5. The authority of Scripture is inescapably impaired if this total divine inerrancy is in any way limited or disregarded, or made relative to a view of truth contrary to the Bible’s own; and such lapses bring serious loss to both the individual and the Church.
http://www.bible-researcher.com/chicago1.html
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The full statement is at the link and follows this portion here.
I would consider myself and ultrafundamentalist . . . further to the right than Billy Graham and Jerry Fawell - and I am trying to remember the last time I beheaded someone and propped their head on their torso for effect.
Gosh, I just can’t remember . . . guess I never did it.
Am I as bad as the dirty scum-sucking dawgs? Don’t think so. But to tell the truth, it is most obvious that Bible believers are hated much more than the terrorists.
I am sure there is a bed awaiting us in some gulag.
You might actually want to read the New Testament in a bit more detail.... John 3:18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.
As with many, it seems that the commentator does not see the New Testament as a fulfillment of the old law and the guide for those living today.
The New Testament or more correctly the Testament of Jesus the Christ exhorts NO ONE to violence it does state that there will always be wars and rumors of wars but does not compel Christians to start any. As for Armageddon note whom starts it.
only christians
I know the Bible fairly well but there are many who understand it far better than I. I do have a Strongs exhaustive concordance which is a real aid in looking things up in the Bible.
I would recommend anyone who wants to study the Bible to have one. Also have a King James Version for the majesty of it plus a newer good translation for detail and a good paraphrase for reading to make it easier to understand some of the more difficult parts.
So ... “love the Lord your God with all your heart, soul, mind and strength ...” and “love your neighbor as yourself ...” will lead to violence.
Sure.
Someone’s logic is flawed.
“I believe every word of the Bible. “
Should those who curse their mothers and fathers be killed?
http://www.biblestudytools.com/kjv/matthew/passage/?q=matthew+15:3-4
I absolutely double dog dare Joe Scarborough to find even one passage in the New Testament that encourages or incites violence.
The Old Testament documents historical violence but does not advocate violence. Several of the Ten Commandments would actually tend to discourage violence .
For those that wish to have a comparative online bible
http://biblehub.com/ is good
https://www.biblegateway.com/ is also excellent but does not default to multiple translations by can do so.
Is Joe Scarborough really that ignorant? I think not. I think he knows how many jihads have been launched by New Testament Christians who literally believe their bible. I can't think of even one.
I can think of some actions of kings and crowns and governments that some might try to hang around the neck of Christians, but that's hardly fair. Was the Spanish Armada a religious war or governments in conflict? It's an obvious answer.
The Amish in our area are out of control with their buggies, woodworking, and baking. They launched an attack on the government last week flinging Danish and dinner rolls at the courthouse in our county. The attacked gathered those spent rounds and had a great lunch. /sarc
Yes those people deserve to die but fortunately for us, Jesus declares us innocent as he has taken our sins upon himself. That is for those who accept his gift.
Even for those who commit these sins, and Jesus forgives, Jesus does not say it is OK, he says to sin no more.
Thank you.
Makings of a new coexist poster?
Everything in the Bible says that conversion cannot be forced, and the Great Commission is to preach the Word, not to kill the unbeliever. For pity’s sake, between this clown and the clownette in the State Dept are they sending out talking points? Christians have died for our faith, been martyred in horrible ways. Christian history is full of them, including up to this day.
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