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To: palmer

what isn’t true about my statement? Nature and man combined are responsible for 0.04% of the total atmospheric CO2- your post did nothing to state otherwise- just to back up what I just said

[[So the question is where did the rest of the 120ppm rise come from? How come CO2 is still rising 2-3 ppm per year?]]

CO2 rises AFTER warming happens (as is even proven by your graph- and other graphs on internet- and research- CO2 does NOT cause rising temps- it’s quite the opposite- rising temps cause rising CO2

Man is still only reposnible for 0.0037% of the TOTAL ATMOSPHERIC CO2 levels- this isn’t soemthi9gn I’m making up- it’s a fact that can be verified In research papers- Man pumps out just 3.4% of 0.04% of the TOTAL ATMOSPHERIC CO2 levels- 3.4% of 0.04% = 0.0037% of the TOTAL ATMOSPHERIC CO2 levels- The rest MUST be naturally occurring- 99.9963% is naturally occurring- These figures are solid-


43 posted on 02/14/2015 10:42:16 AM PST by Bob434
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To: Bob434
Nature and man combined are responsible for 0.04% of the total atmospheric CO2-

True.

CO2 rises AFTER warming happens (as is even proven by your graph- and other graphs on internet- and research- CO2 does NOT cause rising temps- it’s quite the opposite- rising temps cause rising CO2

Also true. And as my chart shows, the rise in CO2 is roughly 10ppm for each 1C rise in temperature. So with a natural rise of about 1C at most following the Little Ice Age, we should see, in the next 800 or so years, a natural rise of 10ppm in atmospheric CO2 as the oceans slowly warm and outgas.

Instead we have had a 120 ppm rise in atmospheric CO2 and still have 2-3 ppm rise per year. To get that kind of rise we there would have to be a 10C rise in temperature in the last millennium and there was not. There would also have to be large ongoing rises in temperature and there is not. The alternative is there would have to be massive new volcanic CO2 sources that formed in the last 150-200 years and there is not.

The best explanation is the economic data showing large manmade CO2 production.

Man pumps out just 3.4% of 0.04% of the TOTAL ATMOSPHERIC CO2

Not true at all. Man pumps out about 3.4% of the annual CO2 in the fall when the northern hemisphere leaves decay and release their stored CO2 in a matter of weeks. But then nature reabsorbs essentially the same amount in the spring and man does not. So you are comparing a one-way manmade CO2 source with a much larger, but two-way natural flux. There is not a single science paper that would support that comparison and I have read numerous in that field.

44 posted on 02/14/2015 10:59:35 AM PST by palmer (Free is when you don't have to pay for nothing. Or do nothing. We want Obamanet.)
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To: Bob434
Here's where your 3.5% number comes from:

Looking at the upward arrows, man emits 7 Petagrams of carbon and nature produces 198 Pg. That means man's production is about 3.5% of nature's production. But looking at the downward arrows, there are about the same 198 downward for nature, but none for man.
45 posted on 02/14/2015 11:07:15 AM PST by palmer (Free is when you don't have to pay for nothing. Or do nothing. We want Obamanet.)
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