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Ore. bakery will have to pay same-sex couple up to $150K
KGW.com ^ | February 2, 2015

Posted on 02/03/2015 3:55:52 PM PST by SMGFan

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To: Publius

I think you have to be a Communist to be elected to Seattle City Council.


61 posted on 02/03/2015 9:04:02 PM PST by gogeo (If you are Tea Party, the eGOP does not want you.)
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To: SMGFan

Hmmm. Keep pushing it.


62 posted on 02/03/2015 9:22:27 PM PST by RedHeeler
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To: P-Marlowe
^^^Explain to me why it’s a sin for a bakery to make a cake.^^^

So you support this decision?

If it ain't a sin, then Christians should for forced to bake it?

Is that what you are implying?

Thank you for your explanation.

63 posted on 02/03/2015 10:06:09 PM PST by Arthur McGowan
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To: Arthur McGowan

I’ll take that as a yes.


64 posted on 02/04/2015 5:45:16 AM PST by P-Marlowe (Saying that ISIL is not Islamic is like saying Obama is not an Idiot.)
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To: Arthur McGowan
Actually, you are wrong. It is a sin.

At the basic level of faith it is sin because: "Ro 14:23 But the man who has doubts is condemned if he eats, because his eating is not from faith; and everything that does not come from faith is sin. "

It is also sin at a substantive level, if, as these are saying, they are being asked to participate in sin.

1 Co 10: 18 Consider the people of Israel: Do not those who eat the sacrifices participate in the altar? 19 Do I mean then that a sacrifice offered to an idol is anything, or that an idol is anything? 20 No, but the sacrifices of pagans are offered to demons, not to God, and I do not want you to be participants with demons. 21 You cannot drink the cup of the Lord and the cup of demons too; you cannot have a part in both the Lord's table and the table of demons.

Can they bake a cake and give it to the person with a bag of icing for them to decorate their own? Yes. Can they put a gay message on that cake? No....because they cannot invest their energy in that any more than they can in creating a beautiful banner that says "Jesus is NOT God" for the American Atheists.

65 posted on 02/04/2015 7:41:35 PM PST by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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To: MV=PY
In the Arlene's Flowers case they sued both the company and the owner. (Here.) And it's been upheld.

Because the owner was an officer of the corporation, and thus had responsibility for how the corporation was run. It's still just corprate law - only.

66 posted on 02/05/2015 1:59:09 PM PST by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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"Because the owner was an officer of the corporation, and thus had responsibility for how the corporation was run. It's still just corprate law - only. "

Gosh FRiend, I sure wish you were correct.

I originally thought that too, until I dug in.

There are two defendents named in the PDF I referenced:

"ARLENE’S FLOWERS, INC., d/b/a ARLENE’S FLOWERS AND GIFTS; and BARRONELLE STUTZMAN,"

Here is a FReeper thread on the ruling. ("Judge: Arlene’s Flowers owner can be sued in her personal capacity")

"Her attorneys argued the claims against her personally should be dropped, describing them as unprecedented and unjust."

"In a decision Wednesday, Judge Alex Ekstrom ruled that “the clear language of the CPA (Consumer Protection Act) and WLAD (Washington Law Against Discrimination) supports both individual and corporate liability.” "

This gave me serious pause about the "limited liability" part of my LLC.

Be aware and forewarned!

67 posted on 02/05/2015 10:02:04 PM PST by MV=PY (The Magic Question: Who's paying for it?)
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