Posted on 02/01/2015 6:03:17 PM PST by Jan_Sobieski
HUNTINGTON BEACH, Calif. — Their children have been sent home from school. Their families are barred from birthday parties and neighborhood play dates. Online, people call them negligent and criminal. And as officials in 14 states grapple to contain a spreading measles outbreak that began near here at Disneyland, the parents at the heart of America’s anti-vaccine movement are being blamed for incubating an otherwise preventable public-health crisis.
Measles anxiety rippled thousands of miles beyond its center on Friday as officials scrambled to try to contain a wider spread of the highly contagious disease — which America declared vanquished 15 years ago, before a statistically significant number of parents started refusing to vaccinate their children. In recent days, new measles cases popped up in Nebraska and Minnesota, New York and Marin County in California. Officials around the country reported rising numbers of patients who were seeking shots, as well as some pediatricians who were accepting non-vaccinated families but were debating changing their policies. The White House urged parents to listen to the science that supports inoculations...
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When man messes with nature only bad can become of it.
Ask a doctor about the ingredients associated with vaccines. Most are made with mercury. I get a kick out of you who rail against government and then complain about not getting a government mandated shot.
Then where is it?
The natural way is for most children to die.
A lie.
In the war against disease, you are on the side of disease.
I’ve a little insomnia so here I am.
I noted your comment about mercury and so did a Google search for “measles vaccine chemistry”.
Maybe it’s the insomnia, but I couldn’t copy and paste the damned thing over. However, I read enough to be convinced there is NO mercury used in the production of M-M-R II (Measles, Mumps and Rubella) vaccines.
You can verify this for yourself.
Now I’m going to try and get back to sleep.
Good morning.
Well, of course it is an "exercise in futility." Most people actually understand that there is no causal link between vaccines and autism.
Why don't you take a stab at trying to explain what no one else can? Explain how vaccines administered to a 2 year old travel back in time to cause autism-related genetic mutations in the sperm and egg before that autistic child is even conceived?
“If vaccines are safe, why is there an age limit on some? If vaccines are safe, why would they harm someone with a weakened immune system? If you have a weakened immune system, will you know it BEFORE you get the shot?”
Vaccines work by stimulating the immune system to respond, in the same/similar way it would respond to the actual illness being vaccinated against (creating antibodies, etc.). If the immune system is not fully developed (e.g., in very young babies), or is compromised, that immune response may not happen. So, it’s not necessarily that vaccines are not safe for babies and people with compromised immune systems, just that they are not effective (or as effective) for those people.
You're right, I do have an agenda. I dream of a day when deadly infectious diseases no longer affect humanity, and I work towards that day.
Until recently, infectious disease was the #1 killer world wide. It has been surpassed because we've controlled it well enough for people to live long enough to get age-related diseases like cancer and heart disease. It is still a top killer. Even in the US, with our fantastic medical system, infectious disease is up there in the top ten causes of death.
Unfortunately, the efforts of me and my colleagues in this fight against deadly infectious diseases are being opposed by anti-vaxxers. They post anti-vaccine propaganda--they use pseudo-science to sell it to people who understand nothing about science and who fall for it because they've never personally known of an infectious disease death. Since those behind the anti-vax movement are the same political ilk as those who would kill off humanity to "save the planet", it is clear what their motivation is. They want to return to the days when life expectancy was in the 40s, and people would have huge families in the hope of seeing one or two of their children survive to adulthood.
Yep, my agenda is to not go back to those days.
And if the kid ends up blind or deaf or with encephalitis are you going to sue the doctors and hospital?
We watched a video Sunday of Barbara Loe Fisher of the NVIC (National Vaccine Information Center) in Virginia, I believe.
Among other comments, she said there is what - 22 billion people in the US (sorry if I have the number wrong) and FIFTY ONE - 51 - have the measles . . .
No Guardesil (sp?) for your daughter.
We wouldn’t dream of giving our (now adult) 4 daughters that
ap-cray either.
Neither are they giving it to THEIR daughters.
Cancer, heart disease and diabetes are not viruses and they are not contagious unlike Measles which is one of the most highly contagious viruses know to man. If you are unvaccinated or had never had it previously, i.e. lacking immunity, there is a about a 90% chance that if exposed, you will contract it. But if you or I come in contact with someone because of their poor life style choices or their “bad” genetics, their predestination for them, has heart disease, diabetes or HBP, there is a zero chance you or I will come down with heart disease, diabetes or HBP from coming into contact with them.
The same with Cancer. I can be around people with cancer all day long but I’m not going to catch cancer from them. But if I OTOH, I have not been vaccinated against preventable diseases, I could expose a cancer patient undergoing chemotherapy, which is for them a very deadly disease and for which, whether they had previously been vaccinated for or had it as a child, because of their compromised immune system, they could contract it from me and with deadly consequences.
And Measles is not a simple childhood disease or a “rite of passage”. Measles has a rather high rate of serious and sometimes deadly complications like pneumonia and encephalitis.
Before 1963, when the measles vaccine became available for public use in the U.S., there were more than 500,000 reported measles cases every year, according to Centers for Disease Control and Prevention data. On average, 432 cases a year resulted in death. After an effective vaccination campaign, that number dwindled to 86 measles cases by 2000, with zero fatalities.
http://www.wsj.com/articles/marc-siegel-fear-measles-not-vaccines-1422315797
And
Measles, a viral respiratory infection, killed over 500,000 children in 2003, more than any other vaccine-preventable disease. The measles death toll in Africa is so high – every minute one child dies – that many mothers don't give children real names until they have survived the disease. Measles weakens the immune system and renders children very susceptible to fatal complications from diarrhoea, pneumonia and malnutrition. Those that survive may suffer blindness, deafness or brain damage.
Compared to Measles (and FWIW, Malaria), the all so scary Ebola is a mere piker and Johnny Come Lately as a killer.
I will also point out that a pregnant woman exposed to Measles can have miscarriages and pre-term and babies with low weight births that lead to many lifelong complications.
As to your claim that cancer rates have “skyrocked”, that is not supported by fact. Cancer rates are actually down, have dropped 22 percent in two decades. This is thanks in part to lower tobacco usage and preventative screenings for lung, breast, prostate and colon cancers.
http://www.star-telegram.com/news/local/community/fort-worth/article8903852.html
But also consider that some cancers like prostate and colon cancers and even some forms of breast cancer are more prevalent among older populations. Prostate cancer in particular is for the most part, a slow moving cancer found mostly in elderly men. That many more older men are today being diagnosed with prostate cancer does not necessarily correspond to a higher rate of prostate cancer overall but that more men are living to a much older age because of better healthcare , improved diets, improvements in sanitation, antibiotics, and vaccinations against killer childhood diseases. A boy who died from complications of Measles, or Mumps or Chicken Pox or Influenza, is never going to at 80+ years old be diagnosed with prostate cancer.
Hardly. No measles deaths that I know about lately. I had it, mumps, chicken pox etc. as a child.
Did you hear about the CDC researchers who excluded data showing an MMR-autism link in their 2004 study? This came out in 2012 and then the story disappeared in the MSM.
You’re being lied to.
“This year’s flu vaccine is basically worthless “
Actually no. It was effective against A & B which were the most prevalent strains. There was just a strain outside the vaccine that became active. And the vaccine was still 20+% effective against the new strain.
“Three young girls have died from the flu shot in the last 3 mos or so.”
So their death certificate says “Flu shot”? I doubt it. A certain number of people will die after getting a flu shot just like a certain number of people will die after shopping at a Walgreens.
“And if the kid ends up blind or deaf or with encephalitis are you going to sue the doctors and hospital?”
Where do you people get this weird azz stuff?
You better hope the boys get it then.
What you listed is only a tiny sliver of a shadow of the things my cousin had to endure. Although she’s still alive, her life was taken from her.
You asked about polio, I answered.
For good reason, you don’t want to face the horrible effects it had on my cousin, because you’ve left your child open to the same terrible things.
It’s your child, and you can subject them to what you want, but have you actually met people who have had polio?
OK, now post the same kind of list of one of the injections your child did get.
I had shingles and it was unpleasant for sure. It lasted about 2 weeks. I took anti virals and pain pills.
Some vaccinations are a good thing. Whooping cough, small pox and polio for sure. I had whooping cough at 6 mos and I have had a predilection toward Bronchitus my whole life so I think that was the side effect.
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