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Putin nationalist calls for Austria to be incorporated into Russia dominated 'Eurasian empire'
International Business Times (IBT) ^ | January 30, 2015 17:34 GMT | Tom Porter

Posted on 01/30/2015 11:45:26 PM PST by WhiskeyX

Russian nationalist ideologue Alexander Dugin, who has close links to Vladimir Putin's Kremlin, has described his vision of a Russian lead 'Eurasian empire', incorporating Austria, as well as Hungary, Romania, Serbia and Slovakia.

Dugin, who has called for Russia to completely annex Ukraine and exterminate Ukrainians, made the comments in an interview with far-right Hungarian website alfahir.hu, and declares his belief in the necessity of a Eurasian empire to counteract the influence of the "nihilistic" West.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Russia
KEYWORDS: austria; dugin; eurasianism; putin; russia
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1 posted on 01/30/2015 11:45:26 PM PST by WhiskeyX
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To: WhiskeyX

This guy once tried promoting the works of Aleister Crowley the Satanist and is here promoting the creation of a Stalinist empire, and he’s talking about the nihilistic West?


2 posted on 01/30/2015 11:48:00 PM PST by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: WhiskeyX
Alexsandr Dugin reminds me of Gregory Rasputin, the strange monk who influenced the Romanovs:


He is a Slavophile and I don't think many in Russia share his extreme xenophobic aversion to the West.

3 posted on 01/30/2015 11:59:30 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

He’s not a Communist.

He just hates the West and thinks Russia is spiritually and materially superior to its decadent enemy.

Russian history has been divided between Slavophiles and Westernizers.

Dugin’s idea of a Greater Russia is crazy. Reviving the Russian Empire is no more plausible than the notion of restoring the Soviet Union.


4 posted on 01/31/2015 12:15:59 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: goldstategop

He reminds me of the dude in the show Home Improvement


5 posted on 01/31/2015 12:21:18 AM PST by Patriot Babe
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To: goldstategop
He’s not a Communist.

What kind of flags are those? Well, I'll give that he's combining Nazi and Soviet imagery there. But they were never really that different, were they?

6 posted on 01/31/2015 12:25:45 AM PST by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: goldstategop
He is a Slavophile and I don't think many in Russia share his extreme xenophobic aversion to the West.

Fascinating. Why is one of FR's Putinistas pushing this line of disinformation now, when usually they're condemning the West or justifying Russian atrocities? New marching orders? "Don't let the Americans know that Russian ideology is nothing but a combination of Nazism/Communism/Totalitarianism! Misdirect them into something else!.

7 posted on 01/31/2015 12:28:08 AM PST by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: goldstategop
He is a Slavophile and I don't think many in Russia share his extreme xenophobic aversion to the West.

Forgot to reply to this: Right now Putin is enjoying 90 percent approval ratings and is using Dugin and many other "ideological ambassadors" to propagandize his people into supporting a world war with the United States. They are actively boasting in their media that they can win a nuclear war with us, and that the United States is the world's great Satan.

Dugin and his ilk represent the mainstream of Russian culture. He's not an oddity at all.

8 posted on 01/31/2015 12:30:52 AM PST by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

The Nazi’s and the Communists were fighting over the same demographic in pre war germany.

The diseffected lower and working classes, students, professors, inteligencia, the generally unhappy and disgruntled....

You know...the same demographic that Dems are always courting...


9 posted on 01/31/2015 1:01:22 AM PST by Crim (Palin / West '16)
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

Actually, it looks more to me like a assortment of actual Communists, and National Bolsheviks. Dugin was said to be one of the latter. It’s possible that the two factions may be working together because they share some common goals.


10 posted on 01/31/2015 1:09:33 AM PST by Jacob Kell (The last good thing that the UN did was Korea.)
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To: goldstategop

>> Dugin’s idea of a Greater Russia is crazy.

Russia has an unprecedented romantic history at least in recent centuries.

Dugin’s attitude might reflect the nurturing elements of Russia’s accomplishments in the arts, but it shouldn’t be difficult for the least informed to recognize Dugin’s imperial fantasies — the region continually struggles with economic survival impacting every aspect of its being.


11 posted on 01/31/2015 1:21:40 AM PST by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

The party was banned in Russia and the National Bolksheviks never really gained a sound footing.

Dugin was involved with founding it but he was never an active member.

His views tend toward the more reactionary side of Russian nationalism which Dostoevsky and others were part of in the 19th Century.

He is not fond of the West at all.


12 posted on 01/31/2015 1:22:40 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: Gene Eric

There are people with outlandish ideas in every society.

And they tend to play on people’s nostalgia for what the country used to be like in the past.

It doesn’t mean it will be that way in the future.

Right now Russia neither has the strength nor the desire to fight the West meaningfully.

People ascribe to Dugin an outsized influence he doesn’t have on those in the circles of power.


13 posted on 01/31/2015 1:27:04 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

I didn’t condemn the West.

All I pointed out is some people in other parts of the world don’t share our liberal sensibilities.

Russian nationalist ideology is a combination of Russian mysticism, Orthodox spirituality and xenophobic insularity.

And you want to convince them the West is not in decline? Good luck with it.


14 posted on 01/31/2015 1:34:34 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: goldstategop

Agreed.

The ascription you describe is classic Marxism — a grungy kindred of dreamers that ironically spend more time conspiring than contributing.


15 posted on 01/31/2015 1:36:25 AM PST by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: Gene Eric

Not exactly.

Solzhenitsyn hated the Communist regime because it destroyed Russian greatness and traditional Russian values.

He had no great love for the West.

Don’t fall into the trap of thinking our adversaries were all Communists.

I do agree with you though the reactionaries shared the same flaw as the Communists: they both wanted a Russian utopia but they had different ideas about the golden future.


16 posted on 01/31/2015 1:41:54 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: goldstategop

Understood.

G’night.


17 posted on 01/31/2015 1:52:07 AM PST by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: WhiskeyX; All

Interesting post & thread. Thanks.


18 posted on 01/31/2015 2:10:52 AM PST by PGalt
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To: goldstategop

....”I don’t think many in Russia share his extreme xenophobic aversion to the West”....

I agree...and he is an extremist and then some.


19 posted on 01/31/2015 2:16:26 AM PST by caww
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To: goldstategop

Dugin is not the person who directly influences the decision-making process in Moscow..... Rather, he is a “right-wing ambassador”, a representative of Malofeev’s group,...... who gathers information and intelligence and establishes contacts with particular European politicians who may be useful for the promotion of Russia’s foreign policy in the EU.

Were Russia to influence Greek politics, this would be done through the Greek government’s collaboration with the Russian officials only.

However it should be noted that further sanctions against Russia can’t be imposed without all 28 EU countries agreeing,.... and Greece is ultimately after a debt write-off,......so Greece could offer to ‘trade the vote’ needed to pass an additional round of sanctions against Russia in exchange for debt relief.

Thus we have recently heard Russia considering to “help” Greece with their debt. So this puts pressure on the Eu.....rather like Obama puts leverage the EU to act in his behalf regarding Ukraine.

Lots of tit-for tat going on between Putin and Obama....we’re watching their plays.


20 posted on 01/31/2015 2:35:08 AM PST by caww
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