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Longview police release video of officer-involved shooting
KLTV-ABC ^ | January 28, 2015 | Ashley Slayton

Posted on 01/28/2015 2:31:40 PM PST by kiryandil

Longview police have released a video of an officer-involved shooting in which a teenager was killed. Longview Police Department Chief Don Dingler addressed the incident during a conference Wednesday before the department aired the video.

(Excerpt) Read more at kltv.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: donutwatch; suicidebycop; texas
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To: kiryandil

Much better quality than the one on TV.


141 posted on 01/29/2015 9:59:38 AM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: kiryandil

We also agree that you are a madman!

But let us investigate our agreement.

If you agree that the other two officers did nothing wrong, then you agree that her shooting was, in fact, justified, tragic though it may be.

Further, it would indicate that my assessment that the original officer’s actions are the only item at issue in this matter is correct, and I do believe that his actions are indeed questionable, though not where the shooting is concerned.

So, in summary, our difference lies in the fact you insist upon, ah, mass character assassination of the officer before any official investigation results are revealed, and my insisting that his side of the story should be obtained prior to rendering judgment, and further awaiting the statements of the Rangers on this.

I would also just like to point out that she sought him out, he did not seek her out. However, if he is found to have been involved in any wrong doing, then throw the book at his head I say.


142 posted on 01/29/2015 10:47:09 AM PST by chris37 (heartless)
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To: chris37
We also agree that you are a madman!

I wouldn't have licked the boots of the Gestapo or the NKVD, either.

If you agree that the other two officers did nothing wrong, then you agree that her shooting was, in fact, justified, tragic though it may be.

Did you start drinking early today? Sounds like you've got a fifth of booze on board. That's drunk logic.

143 posted on 01/29/2015 2:58:15 PM PST by kiryandil (making the jests that some FReepers aren't allowed to...)
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To: kiryandil

Nope, it’s perfect logic.

Seeing as “See! We agree on something, after all!” was said by you to me as it relates to the other two officers doing nothing wrong, and both of whom were, in fact, involved in shooting her, one with a taser which proved ineffective, and the other with a gun that proved effective,

You have, in effect, stated that her shooting was justified.

That is how YOU (*points in your face*) lost this exchange!

You should remember that for next time, because no doubt a another police shooting is just over the horizon...

Also, I do not drink at all, just for the record, and there no Gestapo or NKVD around, let the record further reflect.


144 posted on 01/29/2015 3:07:05 PM PST by chris37 (heartless)
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Nope, it’s perfect logic.

chris, you flunked logic.

I made money on logic for 20 years. Talk to the hand.

145 posted on 01/29/2015 3:32:07 PM PST by kiryandil (making the jests that some FReepers aren't allowed to...)
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To: kiryandil

I haven’t seen you disprove my assertion or counter it in any way other than silly insults and catch phrases.

Maybe you made money on logic for 20 years, but you haven’t made any today.

What you did today was agree that the shooting was justified by admitting that the other two officers who were involved in the shooting did no wrong.

That is how you lost this exchange, if I may be so bold as to point that out to you again.

But if you believe that you did something other than that by admitting that they did no wrong, hey, I’m all ears.

‘Splain it to me, Lucy.


146 posted on 01/29/2015 3:42:20 PM PST by chris37 (heartless)
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To: chris37
I shudder to think that your next trick will be to declare yourself a Princess of Zimiamvia.

IN MY FACE!!!

All our Koshtra are belong to chris37. LOL! :)

147 posted on 01/29/2015 4:29:32 PM PST by kiryandil (making the jests that some FReepers aren't allowed to...)
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To: chris37
The other two officers didn't assault her, molest her or shoot her with a handgun after incompetently releasing her from a pinned-on-her-face position. Officer Bagley shot at her, but may have been under the mistaken impression that Officer Derr was not actually an incompetent, dangerous buffoon.

You're no ordinary idiot, chris. You work at it.

"Coignard’s aunt was told by police that video footage that includes audio exists." Fascinating.

Wonder why the coppers don't want to release that video/audio?

148 posted on 01/29/2015 4:38:29 PM PST by kiryandil (making the jests that some FReepers aren't allowed to...)
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To: kiryandil
"The other two officers didn't assault her, molest her or shoot her with a handgun after incompetently releasing her from a pinned-on-her-face position."

The other two officers most certainly shot her after she charged the other officer with a hunting knife, although it is worth noting that one of them shot her with a taser apparently.

And since you admit these two officers did no wrong, you also admit by extension that this action that they took was justified.

Officer Bagley shot at her, but may have been under the mistaken impression that Officer Derr was not actually an incompetent, dangerous buffoon.

The impression that she was under is that the officer's life was in danger, and she was right.

"You're no ordinary idiot, chris. You work at it."

I'm not any kind of an idiot. I'm the guy that you lost to.

"Wonder why the coppers don't want to release that video/audio?"

Nope. That evidence won't be hidden from investigators. Whatever is on it will be known to htem and us eventually.

There is nothing that the officer could have said to her that would make it okay for her to charge him with a knife and not okay for him to shoot her during the act of charging.

149 posted on 01/29/2015 5:09:41 PM PST by chris37 (heartless)
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To: chris37
This is why FR threads turn into food-fights, because idiot n00bs like yourself can't just discuss the facts of a news article.

No, it's all about "winning". You're one of the more rabid idiots I've encountered in some time, chris.

You're wrong. Wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong.

Where's the audio, chrissie?

150 posted on 01/29/2015 5:36:09 PM PST by kiryandil (making the jests that some FReepers aren't allowed to...)
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To: chris37
I'm glad to see that you finally admitted that you were wrong, and have manned up about it.

Thanks, chris

151 posted on 01/29/2015 5:46:17 PM PST by kiryandil (making the jests that some FReepers aren't allowed to...)
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To: chris37

I know that it was tough losing this debate, but you’ll get over it. :)


152 posted on 01/29/2015 5:46:54 PM PST by kiryandil (making the jests that some FReepers aren't allowed to...)
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Not sure why he did a complete flip-flop and agreed to all my points, but I guess he realized that he was in the wrong.


153 posted on 01/29/2015 6:03:28 PM PST by kiryandil (making the jests that some FReepers aren't allowed to...)
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To: kiryandil

The audio is in the hands of the investigators.

Where would you think the audio would be, besides there?

I’ve discussed the facts of this case the entire time, but since you can’t pay attention to anything other than your own lunatic blathering, I can see where you missed that fact.

I can’t help it that you admitted by implication that the shooting was justified. That was your mistake, and you cannot back peddle out of it no matter what, because it’s quite plain that a) the shooting was justified, and that b) you agreed with that fact by admitting that the second two officers did nothing wrong.

OOPS, DURR HURR, BOY DID YOU F*** UP HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!

PWNED, S0N.

BETTER SKILL NEXT TIME, BUT I DOUBT IT ‘CUZ YOU AIN’T GOT NONE!!!!

Until such time, I will leave to to wallow in your hilarious defeat that you brought on all by yourself with your big, fat, stupid mouth.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!


154 posted on 01/29/2015 6:12:44 PM PST by chris37 (heartless)
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155 posted on 01/29/2015 6:20:03 PM PST by chris37 (heartless)
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To: chris37
So, you say that you're going wallow in your defeat?

Hey, what ever floats your boat.

156 posted on 01/29/2015 6:26:29 PM PST by kiryandil (making the jests that some FReepers aren't allowed to...)
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157 posted on 01/29/2015 6:29:11 PM PST by chris37 (heartless)
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So, I've been following this back and forth, and I have to ask a question:

Are you completely demented?

158 posted on 01/29/2015 6:31:19 PM PST by an amused spectator (Islamic law upholds that children born to a Muslim father are automatically Muslim)
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159 posted on 01/29/2015 6:31:57 PM PST by chris37 (heartless)
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To: an amused spectator

Nope.

Are you?


160 posted on 01/29/2015 6:32:15 PM PST by chris37 (heartless)
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