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To: gleeaikin

You said, “There is no way information can be guaranteed in matters of belief.”

Yes, there is. Jesus guarantees, per His Word in the Bible, that if you come to Him, with a repentant and contrite humble heart, ask Him for forgiveness of your sins, and believe that He lived, died, and rose again, and in His dying, He paid the ultimate and complete price for your sins, then He guarantees you will join Him in heaven.

In July, 2001, my adult son was a career member of a hot shot crew, fighting forest fires. Weeks would go by and we would not hear from him, as he was always somewhere in the Western USA fighting large forest fires. At that specific time, we knew he was on a large fire, but I did not know where, and had not spoken to him for several weeks.

At 5:00pm, in Belfast, Maine, just as I parked my Suburban to grab a quick burger and tank up the truck, God came thundering down on me telling me my son was dying, and I needed to pray for him. Through a veil of tears I began immediately heeded God’s Word, and prayed for all I was worth. About an hour later, I knew my son was OK.

I returned home that night at 10:00pm. As I opened the truck door in our driveway, my wife came to our front porch, house phone in hand, and said, “Jeff (my son) is on the phone.” How’s that for timing? He was in the hospital in Jackson Hole, Wyoming, where he had been on a large fire there, on the edge of town, for about two weeks. He collapsed on the fire line, was medivacked by helicopter for a two minute flight to the hospital in Jackson Hole. He did not have enough oxygen in his body to support life. They brought him back and stabilized him. All this happened while I was crying and praying for him in Belfast, as God had instructed me to do. Prayer works. Jesus works. I have two witnesses to this event, on my end: my bride and my best friend and prayer partner, whom I called around 5:30pm, when I got the crying under control (sort of). God is who He says He is. His Word is true. Guaranteed.


77 posted on 02/24/2015 8:31:18 AM PST by Tudorfly
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To: Tudorfly; All

First of all let me say I am very glad your son was rescued. However, as I said in my comment, we only know what humans who wrote the words in the Bible say that God told them. We have no way of knowing as a fact if that is true. We only have belief that they truly think that God was communicating with them. Jesus did not write the Bible. It was written by men who wanted to convey his words and message as strongly as possible, which they have done very successfully. So this is not Jesus’ guarantee, but the guarantee of people who say they are quoting what Jesus said, which they believe God communicated to Jesus, and in some cases never even met Jesus or talked with his original followers. I’m sorry, but I simply would never consider signing a life and death contract with someone who was two or more parties removed from the originator. In that case, who would be the guarantor?

I repeat, belief is belief, and fact is fact, but they are often not the same.

I and several people I know have had very intense extrasensory communication in times of death and danger, and in those cases we did not react religiously. When you sensed your son’s danger, as a very religious person, your reaction was religious. That type of communication has occurred to a number of people, who did not react in a religious way since that is not their primary reaction to a sense of danger. I don’t believe it makes that sense of communication any less real, but I would certainly not be able to guarantee it was true, merely that I and my friends believe what we felt.


78 posted on 02/26/2015 9:09:52 PM PST by gleeaikin
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