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To: WhiskeyX
Any space faring human societies which have mastered the ability to make asteroids into their homes may if they so wish ever so gradually propel their asteroid out of the Solar System on interstellar voyages lasting lifetimes. The technologies required to propel the asteroids on their interstellar voyages can use the ion rocket engines first patented by Robert Goddard before the Second World War. No “warp drives” or “stargates” are required to be invented. Only time is required in the form of multiple lifetimes and multiple generations. Of course, the less adventurous can simply “stay home” and watch the extinction of life on the Earth from nearby in he Solar System.

Yup. Still, energy will be the most critical problem with using that astroid ship to get anywhere. (see my previous post)

91 posted on 01/27/2015 10:09:50 AM PST by zeugma (The act of observing disturbs the observed.)
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To: zeugma

“Yup. Still, energy will be the most critical problem with using that astroid ship to get anywhere. (see my previous post)”

Yes, I’m assuming nuclear fusion reactors, an ion engine, and a hyperbolic gravity assist at the launch of the expedition.

Prediction: interstellar travelers will discover rogue planets and asteroids in the space between the stellar systems.

Maintenance of a closed environment and a closed social system will be the most critical problems faced by such interstellar voyagers.


94 posted on 01/27/2015 2:16:55 PM PST by WhiskeyX
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To: zeugma
A photon crosses the Universe in linear space but always in the present of its creation. This has led me to postulate that the Universe is an assortment of coordinate systems, the least of which is point / moment. The photon is then existing in a moment / linear coordinate system.

The flow of time is another way of expressing a three of space and one of time coordinate system (what I call the volume / future coordinate system) evolving from the big bang toward thermodynamic equilibrium. If a photon can cross the Universe remaining in the present of its creation, then there is Shirley a hugh possibility for we smartaleck humans to isolate a space craft from the volume / future coordinate system while zipping to another location within that system. Being convinced that we have visitors from other planets beyond our solar system, I believe we humans, if we survive long enough, will do it too.

BTW, the reality of the interference pattern in the two slit experiment hints greatly at a way to 'be outside the confines' of the volume / future Universe around us.

95 posted on 01/27/2015 3:10:08 PM PST by MHGinTN (Is it really all relative, Mister Einstein?)
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