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DAILY MAIL: A 5-Year-Old Girl Just Died of the Very Strain of Flu
Daily Mail article; Fox News Photo; copied by Freedom Outpost ^ | 1/27/2015 | Daily Mail article copied by Melissa Melton

Posted on 01/27/2015 5:08:31 AM PST by HomerBohn

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To: HomerBohn

Do you recommend being vaccinated against polio?


61 posted on 01/27/2015 7:02:49 AM PST by Jim Noble (When strong, avoid them. Attack their weaknesses. Emerge to their surprise.)
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To: HomerBohn

I’m conflicted on vaccines and refuse to take the flu vaccine, opting for natural immunity myself (no risk factors).

However, writers lose credibility with poor proofreading.

Psssssssssssst...hey Melissa - check your math next time.


62 posted on 01/27/2015 7:03:52 AM PST by logi_cal869 (-cynicus-)
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To: Black Agnes
If she died from the very strain in the vaccine, no one dropped the ball. The shot just didn’t work.

Or more accurate, perhaps her immune system didn't work. It may also be possible (I didn't read the full story) that she was exposed to the real flu too soon after receiving the vaccine. If that happened, her body may not have had time to fully develop antibodies that could fight off the flu.

63 posted on 01/27/2015 7:11:08 AM PST by Lou L (Health "insurance" is NOT the same as health "care")
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To: mad_as_he$$

> I never ever never use a pen that is not mine and is
> always in my control and I never lend it to anyone.

VERY good advice.

And always wash before eating, regardless of where you are or when you last washed.


64 posted on 01/27/2015 7:11:13 AM PST by Westbrook (Children do not divide your love, they multiply it)
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To: Lou L

I’d be surprised if she didn’t get the flu shot at the beginning of the school year. Most states that require the shot for schoolkids require it by the start of school or shortly thereafter.

I’d be shocked if she received it after Halloween even.


65 posted on 01/27/2015 7:12:34 AM PST by Black Agnes
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To: Black Agnes

“Well, this little girl got the flu shot. And later died of the same strain of vaccine flu.”

All that shows is that the flu vaccine is not 100% effective, even on the correct strain. Which is surprising to no one. No vaccine is 100% effective.


66 posted on 01/27/2015 7:12:44 AM PST by Conscience of a Conservative
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To: Conscience of a Conservative
http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/mm6342a3.htm?s_cid=mm6342a3_w

"Influenza Outbreak in a Vaccinated Population — USS Ardent, February 2014"

"Sequence analysis (3) of the HA1 portion of the hemagglutinin gene showed 99% homology to typical H3N2 strains circulating in the United States and worldwide during the 2013–14 northern hemisphere influenza season and were found to be antigenically similar to A/Texas/50/2012 (4). Ninety-nine of 102 USS Ardent crew members, 24 of the 25 with ILI symptoms, and 17 of 18 crew members with confirmed influenza A (H3N2) infection had received the 2013–14 influenza vaccine ≥3 months before the outbreak. Vaccinations had been administered at local naval health clinics and at a vaccination fair conducted by Naval Medical Center San Diego. Of the 25 crew members with ILI symptoms, 16 were vaccinated via intradermal injection, eight via intranasal mist, and one had not received vaccination."

BTW, this was LAST years flu vaccine.

67 posted on 01/27/2015 7:15:18 AM PST by Black Agnes
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To: Conscience of a Conservative
Let me extract the relevant numbers here:

"24 of the 25 with ILI symptoms, and 17 of 18 crew members with confirmed influenza A (H3N2) infection had received the 2013–14 influenza vaccine ≥3 months before the outbreak. Vaccinations had been administered at local naval health clinics and at a vaccination fair conducted by Naval Medical Center San Diego. Of the 25 crew members with ILI symptoms, 16 were vaccinated via intradermal injection, eight via intranasal mist, and one had not received vaccination."

68 posted on 01/27/2015 7:16:55 AM PST by Black Agnes
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To: HomerBohn
Let's just take that first number against H3N2. Sixty-five percent? That's the general rate of vaccine effectiveness? Well WOO HOO. What about the other 45%??? Sixty-five percent isn't even that high anyway considering these people are taking a shot filled with chemicals and heavy metals that bypasses their natural immune systems and all the risks that go along with that. But that 65% protection is for unvaccinated people. Check out the protection for the good little citizens who take their government-recommended flu cocktail every year: 24%. ONLY TWENTY-FOUR PERCENT. Even against flu strain B, those same vaccinated people only get 48% protection.

65%, 48% and 25% protection are a lot better than 0% protection. If people don't want to get the flu shot, then fine, that's a personal choice; but to suggest that the flue shot is worthless and of no value or benefit is an act of journalistic malpractice.

69 posted on 01/27/2015 7:32:40 AM PST by Labyrinthos
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To: AppyPappy
Yea, coughing into their hand and them using a pen, door handle or something else.
70 posted on 01/27/2015 7:33:42 AM PST by mad_as_he$$
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71 posted on 01/27/2015 7:46:08 AM PST by onedoug
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To: Black Agnes
Most states that require the shot for schoolkids require it by the start of school or shortly thereafter.

They usually don't make the flu shot widely available until early October. Given that many schools start in August, I would think getting the flu shot prior to school starting would be a challenge.

72 posted on 01/27/2015 7:59:19 AM PST by Lou L (Health "insurance" is NOT the same as health "care")
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To: Labyrinthos

http://sharylattkisson.com/govt-researchers-flu-shots-not-effective-in-elderly-after-all/

Do read that writeup.

Lots of official statistical shenanigans with this shot. Lots.


73 posted on 01/27/2015 7:59:39 AM PST by Black Agnes
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To: Lou L

That’s surprising. The Walgreens around here start their push in September.

Hubby and I remarked that we knew it was ‘back to school’ when we saw all the signs.


74 posted on 01/27/2015 8:01:04 AM PST by Black Agnes
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To: Black Agnes

Then don’t get he flu shot, if you don’t think it works,. Personal choice. I’ve been getting the shot for the last ten years, beginning the year after I got the flu and and missed Christmas, New Years, my birthday, and about two weeks of work. I have not contracted the flu since I started getting the shot.


75 posted on 01/27/2015 8:07:13 AM PST by Labyrinthos
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To: Labyrinthos

Did you bother to read Sharyl’s writeup at all?

Did the official shenanigans not bother you at all?


76 posted on 01/27/2015 8:14:57 AM PST by Black Agnes
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To: Star Traveler

I’ll tell you about 10 years ago I had the flu I honestly thought I was going to die it was a 3 week stint and another 2 weeks before I REALLY felt human again!!!!! I have NOT missed a flu shot since then!!!!! It only takes one time of being this sick to get that damn shot!!!!!!


77 posted on 01/27/2015 8:20:46 AM PST by Kit cat (OBummer must go)
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To: Kit cat

I was thinking the same thing myself ... after this time around ... :-) ...


78 posted on 01/27/2015 8:34:28 AM PST by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: Black Agnes
I was speaking in general terms, not specifically to this case. I didn't see when she received the vaccine and how much time had elapsed between receiving it and falling ill. It's possible she already had the virus in her when she received the vaccine. It's also entirely possible that the specific vaccine lot was compromised or the single multi-use vial being used to administer vaccines was compromised. It's also possible that there was a medication error of some kind. We don't know.

What we do know is that this is one single incident. Many millions of other people have received the vaccine and have not died from influenza.

I have always had mixed feelings about mandatory vaccinations for a number of reasons. I went ahead and got the shot though because my employer would have forced me to wear a mask around during my 12 hour shifts if I hadn't and I really didn't want to do that. I have had three viral infections since getting the shot but no influenza. I'm currently fighting a viral upper respiratory infection in fact. That's how nature intended it.

79 posted on 01/27/2015 8:38:34 AM PST by RC one (Militarized law enforcement is just a politically correct way of saying martial law enforcement.)
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To: AppyPappy
we're supposed to call it Norwalk virus now/again according the International Committee on Taxonomy of Viruses. Tell your friends.
80 posted on 01/27/2015 8:43:19 AM PST by RC one (Militarized law enforcement is just a politically correct way of saying martial law enforcement.)
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