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Sir Ben Kingsley: Europe Did Not Grieve the Holocaust
INN ^ | 1/26/2015, 5:59 PM | Yoni Kempinski and Ari Soffer

Posted on 01/26/2015 2:01:30 PM PST by Olog-hai

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To: Olog-hai
I think European socialists were able to control the narrative that the Holocaust was a "right wing NAZI" phenomenon.

If European children were taught the truth, that Socialism (leftists), particularly National Socialists caused the Holocaust, they might have grieved at some point. But the new Islamicized Europe is boldly moving towards a Holocaust again...but this time it may be Jews and Christians!
21 posted on 01/26/2015 2:30:08 PM PST by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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To: Borges

Can you tell me where I can read up on this new European lie? They make me sick!


22 posted on 01/26/2015 2:30:41 PM PST by miss marmelstein (Richard the Third: Loyalty Binds Me)
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To: miss marmelstein

Mercy, sounds like he’s a bit full of himself, no ? :)


23 posted on 01/26/2015 2:30:49 PM PST by jttpwalsh
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To: dfwgator

Sorry, I loathe Sascha Baron Cohen.


24 posted on 01/26/2015 2:32:08 PM PST by miss marmelstein (Richard the Third: Loyalty Binds Me)
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To: jttpwalsh

Oh, yes! He’s been tortured about his for years, lol! I had forgotten The Sopranos tv series made fun of him.


25 posted on 01/26/2015 2:33:07 PM PST by miss marmelstein (Richard the Third: Loyalty Binds Me)
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To: miss marmelstein

I saw it on some wacko’s FB page. And she had people agreeing with her. So I extrapolated from there. I don’t know if there is any ‘official’ source. Thank the Lord.


26 posted on 01/26/2015 2:39:00 PM PST by Borges
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To: miss marmelstein

He was real good in “Hugo” though.


27 posted on 01/26/2015 2:46:07 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: miss marmelstein

The Sopranos tv series made fun of him


Interesting, I thought it was poking fun at the “Christopher” character, for trying to be sophisticated. Live and learn ! Thanks :)


28 posted on 01/26/2015 2:48:55 PM PST by jttpwalsh
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To: Olog-hai

He is right. They haven’t faced what happened, and they haven’t faced their own countries’ role in it. After all, it wasn’t just the Germans. French police rounded up French jews, Belgian police rounded up Belgian jews, Hungarian police rounded up Hungarian jews. And so on.

And in part because as he says they haven’t grieved, and they haven’t faced their own national culpability, they do not understand the genesis of modern Israel, and they miss the connection between Islam and Nazism.


29 posted on 01/26/2015 2:54:14 PM PST by marron
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To: CodeToad

Depends on who you mean by “they”.

The “bigger” nations got a big boost thanks to US aid. And then “they” had the distraction of the Cold War, under which “they” could do a lot of things under the radar.


30 posted on 01/26/2015 3:02:17 PM PST by Olog-hai
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To: DoughtyOne

Well stated.


31 posted on 01/26/2015 3:03:35 PM PST by Hulka
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To: Borges

A new Dolchstoßlüge?


32 posted on 01/26/2015 3:03:48 PM PST by Olog-hai
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To: CodeToad

I can understand that. After all the physical and emotional pain, the anguish, death, destruction, and devastation all around you, I could see that it would be difficult to openly grieve more and squeeze a tear. By nature, whether we voice it or not, we often lay the blame for our own trouble and misfortunes at the feet of others. I can see the difficulty for common people, going about their private lives, to connect the dots on how they may have personally contributed to the war and holocaust, whether by some action or inaction of their own doing.

I am not willing to condemn all Europeans for WWII when I look around and see the ignorance, self-indulgence and licentious lifestyles that are causing our country to go to hell in double-time. Our citizens do not see their indifference, lifestyle choices and morality as putting our nation at risk. There were those in Europe that saw the danger, too, only to be swept aside by the propaganda fueled lemmings. It is hard to be critical when we are traveling down a similar path. I wish I were wrong.


33 posted on 01/26/2015 3:08:28 PM PST by RatRipper ( Cherish those who seek the truth, but beware of those who find it. - Voltaire)
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To: dfwgator

I HATED Hugo. I hate that guy. Sorry.


34 posted on 01/26/2015 3:15:10 PM PST by miss marmelstein (Richard the Third: Loyalty Binds Me)
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To: marron

Well, I’m old enough to remember all the movies of the 60s like “The Sorrow and the Pity” which documented the Holocaust from the French point of view. And who can forget the Klaus Barbie trial which ignited a fire storm of regret and denial? I would not say the French haven’t faced up to facts and according to a German friend, the Holocaust is taught in schools. It’s actually the Japs who need to own up to the horror they caused in the 30s and 40s.


35 posted on 01/26/2015 3:19:44 PM PST by miss marmelstein (Richard the Third: Loyalty Binds Me)
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To: Olog-hai
“It never happened, and if you don’t shut up, it will happen again!”

Yep, that's what they say, all right.

Even so, secular morals/ethics will never get the job done. The heart of hatred of the Jews is hatred of HaShem, yet in none of the commemorations of the Holocaust (or other official poo-pooing of anti-Semitism) is G-d ever mentioned. Instead a totalitarian religious relativism is declared the only solution and the fact that some non-Jews actually believe their own religions are objectively true is implicitly made the root of all evil.

The association of the Jews with militant secularism (with Jewish observance carefully exempted in the name of "multiculturalism") is only going to make anti-Semitism worse.

36 posted on 01/26/2015 3:31:39 PM PST by Zionist Conspirator (Throne and Altar! [In Jerusalem!!!])
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To: miss marmelstein
It’s actually the Japs who need to own up to the horror they caused in the 30s and 40s.

This is absolutely true. They teach nothing, they admit nothing.

37 posted on 01/26/2015 4:09:39 PM PST by marron
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To: Zionist Conspirator

They have atoned for the holocaust by opening their borders to muslims by the millions and forbidding any criticism of Islam.


38 posted on 01/26/2015 4:12:21 PM PST by marron
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To: Olog-hai

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_war_apology_statements_issued_by_Japan

Little compare and contrast.


39 posted on 01/26/2015 4:14:07 PM PST by mad puppy (E PLURIBUS UNUM)
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To: Borges

There’s a movement in loony anti-Israel circles that claim that Hitler only killed anti-Zionist Jews (and was supported by Zionists). It takes all kinds.
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Stalin started the doctor’s plot in 1953 as set up to exterminate Russia’s Jews in another holocaust principally because he distrusted their loyalty after the formation of Israel.


40 posted on 01/26/2015 4:26:11 PM PST by ckilmer (q)
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