Hundreds attend Zagreb mass in honor of ‘one of Europe's biggest mass murderers’

The Jerusalem Post ^ | December 29, 2014 | Sam Sokol

[vladimir998]

“Like passports to South America?”

No, like memorial Masses. Have a reading problem?

[Verginius Rufus]

I think Pavelic's connections before 1941 were entirely with Mussolini's Italy. The German decision to invade Yugoslavia was made on the spur of the moment and when Hitler decided to create a Croatian puppet state in part of the country he tried to get the leader of the main Croatian political party, the Peasant Party, to be head of that state, but that man (Vlatko Macek) refused, so Hitler turned to Pavelic, who was in exile and head of a much smaller party.

Pavelic and his supporters killed a lot of innocent people but if you added up the numbers I think you'd find that Tito killed more people during and after the war.

[vladimir998]

I think you’re right.

By the way, about Tito: he and the Ustasha were allies in the mid-to-late 30s!

[kearnyirish2]

The larger issue (communism versus monarchies/democracies) aren’t even discussed when these people born over a century ago are judged by today’s standards; the crimes perpetrated by the victors (in eastern Europe, the communists) are completely swept under the carpet.

I grew up around plenty of eastern Europeans, and their take on events back then are much more informed than what we are fed. They don’t defend either side, but present the other half of the equation that is hidden from us.

[archy]

“memorial masses are available to all Catholics and are never denied.”

Like passports to South America?

Many of those Nazis who fled to South America and elsewhere did so on Vatican-issued or obtained passports.

[FormerLib]

The Serbian people revolted against an armistice negotiated by their own government with the Nazis. While Croatia couldn’t fall before their fascist masters fast enough, Serbian Nazis were about as common as American ones.

[FormerLib]

This was a mass to remember a Nazi, inside the church.

More importantly, you have people on this board stepping up to defend that. Speaks volumes, doesn't it?