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Obama: States more likely to legalize pot
The Hill ^ | January 22, 2015 | Justin Sink

Posted on 01/23/2015 11:33:34 AM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks

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To: central_va; mom of young patriots
So are you willing to play by the rules and leave intrastate marijuana regulation to the states, rather than fedgov?

IOW, do you think government should honor the 10th Amendment?

41 posted on 01/23/2015 2:42:48 PM PST by Ken H (What happens on the internet, stays on the internet.)
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To: mom of young patriots
Though I believe steadfastly in freedom, I also understand the law of unintended consequences and know that it is a fine line we walk between what is healthy for society as a whole and what is driven by self indulgence.

What do the "health of society as a whole" and the identification of "what is driven by self indulgence" have to do with freedom? Nothing that I can see.

42 posted on 01/23/2015 2:49:23 PM PST by ConservingFreedom (A goverrnment strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them.)
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To: Ken H

I know that it should be decided at the state level per the 10 amendment at the state level. No matter which states do pass it, IMHO they are in for a world of hurt with the eventual outcome. Ya sure they will have an increase in taxes and supposedly crime will fall since it is available, but druggies will still have to steal and rob to buy the now legal pot.


43 posted on 01/23/2015 2:50:42 PM PST by notpoliticallycorewrecked (The more I know, the more I realize that how much more there is to learn.)
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To: ConservingFreedom

The problem with the over supply didn’t happen until after the election. It is actually quite recent. The supply was short over the summer and the producers were making lots of money, but once the state got their act together and started licensing more growers, the market became flooded and the growers are having a tough time finding outlets for their crop.

WA is a mostly rural state, and a lot of people who were already growing their own weed and either selling it or sharing it.


44 posted on 01/23/2015 4:04:45 PM PST by Eva
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To: Eva

America does agriculture really well!


45 posted on 01/23/2015 4:05:24 PM PST by nascarnation (Impeach, convict, deport)
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To: theBuckwheat

Your post was well written, very concise and to the point.


46 posted on 01/23/2015 5:15:16 PM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: blueunicorn6

Marijuana reduces sex drive? Brother when I was a kid and smoked weed I wanted to screw every girl in sight.


47 posted on 01/23/2015 5:20:23 PM PST by jmacusa (Liberalism defined: When mom and dad go away for the weekend and the kids are in charge.)
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To: theBuckwheat
The part I don't understand is how supposed conservatives at a conservative website support nanny state nonsense, prohibition, and mostly supported a flaming liberal presidential candidate?

"It's for the children" is the battle cry of liberals everywhere.

I don't endorse self inflicted retardation but I believe in liberty and freedom strongly enough to believe it senseless to outlaw a backyard weed.

48 posted on 01/23/2015 5:29:18 PM PST by Manic_Episode (GOP = The Whig Party)
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To: Manic_Episode

Why don’t heroin addicts push for legalization? It’s just pot that’s ok, why not other drugs?


49 posted on 01/23/2015 5:34:23 PM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: central_va

Other end of the spectrum from a backyard weed. I would support tripling the penalty for hard drugs, and death penalty for those knowingly selling to minors. The WODs is being fought half assed and has only made things worse. We need to s#!t or get off the pot, pun intended.


50 posted on 01/23/2015 5:39:20 PM PST by Manic_Episode (GOP = The Whig Party)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Thanks for the ping!


51 posted on 01/23/2015 9:36:16 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: Manic_Episode

I beg people who call themselves Conservative, to deeply think about all the things they are trying to conserve. I would ask them to consider how many aspects are liberty oriented and how many only advance big and Bigger government to the determent of liberty.

Yes, we need an ordered and peaceful society. But the war on drugs is just as good an example as any. Who thinks it is a good idea that some young people will choose to be stoners or pot heads? I certainly don’t. But when we start down the road of trying to suppress drug consumption via the heavy hand of the law, and we end up with unbridled asset forfeit laws, we are shocked at how government can run amok. We are frustrated that it is so far impossible to get government to repeal this source of revenue.

Well, government is addicted to power and the money it takes to secure things that fund power grabs. In attempting to secure a better society, we enable all manner of government abuses that only destroy society.

The hard truth is that government has limits and even conservatives are tempted to use government to address failings in morality where government cannot have very much effect. Government is only power, and in the end, it only has its credible monopoly on the use of deadly force. Let us reserve the use of that power ONLY for things its is best suited for, such as protecting peaceful citizens from violent ones, so that people can be secure in their persons and property.

If a person wants to spend their day stoned, I am sorry for them, I want to help them, but I am not willing to threaten them with being shot or tasered if they will not sober up. If they get behind the wheel of a vehicle, they are committing a criminal act just as if they were driving while drunk or otherwise impaired.

Again, with all due respect, let us conserve the things that should be conserved, and shuck the aspects of “conservatism” that should not be preserved. Our goal must be to preserve liberty, not government! For too many conservatives, government has become a god and the end goal of their political lives. They would ask, “do I hate government”? My answer: only as much as George Washington or George Mason did.

Washington told us that government was a wonderful servant but a horrible master. We have a horrible master today, which is why we are are headed for and Article V convention of the States to clarify and refine the relationship between the people, the States and the federal government.


52 posted on 01/24/2015 5:50:01 AM PST by theBuckwheat
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To: nascarnation

Well, there is water rationing in some of the WA agricultural areas. Weed doesn’t do well in the rationing process.


53 posted on 01/24/2015 8:02:32 AM PST by Eva
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To: theBuckwheat
Let us reserve the use of that power ONLY for things its is best suited for, such as protecting peaceful citizens from violent ones

Amen!

54 posted on 01/24/2015 3:24:07 PM PST by ConservingFreedom (A goverrnment strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them.)
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