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To: kearnyirish2; cll

There was a period of time - in the late ‘50s and early ‘60s, I believe - during which accepted Air Force doctrine and policy was that there would be no more dogfights. That dogfights couldn’t happen anymore because closing speeds and angular rates were so high that human reaction times wouldn’t be able to deal with a dogfight.

Air Force thinking was - for a time - that everything would depend on air-to-air missiles and other stand-off capabilities.

Perhaps the lack of guns on the Phantom was a result of this policy.


20 posted on 01/23/2015 9:37:20 AM PST by Steely Tom (Vote GOP for A Slower Handbasket)
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To: Steely Tom

That’s about it.

A cannon was added once that doctrine was abandoned.


26 posted on 01/23/2015 9:41:45 AM PST by WayneS (Don't blame me, I voted for Kodos.)
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To: Steely Tom

I think that is exactly what led to that thinking; I guess hindsight is 20/20. I’ve seen interviews with pilots from Vietnam describing how it nearly cost them their lives.


27 posted on 01/23/2015 9:43:12 AM PST by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic warfare against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: Steely Tom

But the F4 was originally built for the navy.


30 posted on 01/23/2015 9:55:44 AM PST by reg45 (Barack 0bama: Implementing class warfare by having no class.)
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To: Steely Tom

First time I saw an F4H was at MCAS Beaufort. We were working a rare Saturday (F8U-2NE squadron), so everyone was working off a hangover. Two F4H planes took off and immediately hit afterburners. Three guys fell on the ground holding their head, screaming.


40 posted on 01/23/2015 10:13:46 AM PST by NTHockey (Rules of engagement #1: Take no prisoners. And to the NSA trolls, FU)
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