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Lt. Lorance Gets 19 Years at Leavenworth because He defended his Troops against Jihadists
Freedom Outpost ^ | 1/22/2015 | Tim Brown

Posted on 01/23/2015 4:21:16 AM PST by HomerBohn

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To: HomerBohn

The only way to bring Obama into this is give him a month in uniform as an infantryman in a squad on patrol in AFGHANISTAN. (as the point man of course) LTC West knows the situation 1st hand, too bad the Perfumed Princes ignore it. I’d love to put Obama in a closed room with LTC West, I’m sure the real Leader will prevail.


21 posted on 01/23/2015 5:45:02 AM PST by Bringbackthedraft (2016 a Clinton/ Gore ticket?? The RNC better come up with some Winners this time.)
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To: HomerBohn

Obama wants to withdraw from Afghanistan and return authority to the “right people”. He only stayed to get reelected and after withdrawing from Iraq first. Now that been accomplished it’s time to pull out of Afghanistan. The rules of engagement were designed so Americans could neither fight aggressively against the enemy nor defend themselves against attack. The purpose of doing this is very obvious: first by increasing causalities it will decrease America’s desire of using it’s military. Second by having rules of engagement where every time you fire your weapon opens you up for prosecution also helps with the left and the media’s template the American serviceman is a war criminal murdering innocent third world poor people of color look how many soldiers have been convicted of war crimes! Third the American military is humiliated and the Muslims encouraged that they can stand up to a world power and defeat them in the field. Fourth if the infidel dares to defend himself against Muslims then he is receiving just punishment for he has no right to do anything but submit to Islam once war has been declared. The rules of engagement have been written by radical left wing lawyers and the Muslim brotherhood so government policy is being set by those who want to destroy our Republic.


22 posted on 01/23/2015 5:47:41 AM PST by bonehead4freedom
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To: HomerBohn

The only ROE we need is kill them all, period.


23 posted on 01/23/2015 5:49:34 AM PST by Resolute Conservative
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To: HomerBohn

If true, this is appalling. My son was there and could go back. However, the story as written seems very incomplete.


24 posted on 01/23/2015 5:52:53 AM PST by bjc (Show me the data!)
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To: Travis McGee

Bttt


25 posted on 01/23/2015 5:58:46 AM PST by Guenevere
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To: Travis McGee

Bttt


26 posted on 01/23/2015 5:58:46 AM PST by Guenevere
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To: Gen.Blather

And those who prosecuted these cases should be fired or worse.


27 posted on 01/23/2015 6:02:05 AM PST by captain_dave
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To: rdcbn
...that the number of American troop casualties rates have more than doubled and are accelerating under Obama.

Purposely.

28 posted on 01/23/2015 6:13:23 AM PST by onedoug
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To: HomerBohn

Good luck with that. Not this president, a Moslem whose sympathies are entirely with his dead coreligionists for whom he is duty bound to seek vengeance.


29 posted on 01/23/2015 6:13:38 AM PST by arthurus (It's true!)
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To: Vaquero

Bergdahl is a hero to this president. It will surely be found at some point that he is a Moslem convert.


30 posted on 01/23/2015 6:14:37 AM PST by arthurus (It's true!)
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To: Valentine Michael Smith

That should be the only point in fighting a war. Today, it isn’t and that’s really where the problems stem from.


31 posted on 01/23/2015 6:19:08 AM PST by Personal Responsibility (I'd use the /S tag but is it really necessary?)
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To: Resolute Conservative

In a sane world, this is the only ROE that should exist. We do not live in a sane world. Not even close.


32 posted on 01/23/2015 6:20:42 AM PST by Personal Responsibility (I'd use the /S tag but is it really necessary?)
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To: arthurus
It will surely be found at some point that he is a Moslem convert

From all those moslem ‘injections’ he got while in their custody.

33 posted on 01/23/2015 6:27:51 AM PST by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: HomerBohn
While I agree that 0bamahole's ROE made it nearly impossible for our troops to do their jobs, I'm troubled that not only were his troops offered immunity of sorts, but the following goes a bit further. While there isn't really enough information contained in the article to form a strong position, some of the information contradicts the defense's arguments... FTA:

"The ANA (Afghan National Army) started telling them to go back, waving to them to return towards the motorcycle, to stay away," Skelton testified. "They turned around and went back towards the motorcycle."

This last statement conflicts with the narrative offered in the LT's defense...his own troops were essentially calling the Lt. a liar. Or are they lying for some reason?

The soldiers of his squad said that he had tormented the Afghans and had made death threats against them.

I'm curious about this...were these threats against the 3 on the motorcycle or in general? I suspect the 3 and if so, then his orders to stop, the initial volley of fire and the subsequent shooting of the 2 could be argued to be "death threats"...essentially, "If you don't stop that motorcycle, we're gonna fire on you."

Overall a real crappy situation for our troops to find themselves confronted with. This needs to be made right and the Lt. freed.

[Hey self-anointed FR monitor, I chose to use a vulgar word...haven't seen you bothering anyone else lately...better get busy.]

34 posted on 01/23/2015 6:50:42 AM PST by SZonian (Throwing our allegiances to political parties in the long run gave away our liberty.)
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To: HomerBohn

I hope PFC. James Skelton gets what is coming to him, a life of misery.


35 posted on 01/23/2015 7:05:29 AM PST by Robert DeLong (u)
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To: Dick Vomer

This has happened many times. Gutless Republican and military leaders do nothing.


36 posted on 01/23/2015 10:07:03 AM PST by stinkerpot65 (Global warming is a Marxist lie.)
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