Championship Sunday: Packers Blow It; Patriots Accused of Deflating Their Balls

Rush Limbaugh.com ^ | January 15, 2015 | Rush Limbaugh

[tflabo]

Packers in the 2nd half were not very productive on offense.
Should have kept the ball on longer, time eating drives. Late in the 4th Q Clinton_Dix let a potential pick 6 interception sail thru his hands. Would have been game over.
They let the Seahawks 2 point conversion in when it should have been stopped and of course the onside kick debacle. Coulda-shoulda—woulda-—

[dainbramaged]

Green Bay did not give away the game, the Seahawks got it together late and took it back. I almost had a stroke.

[eyedigress]

It should have never been.

The Packers are in the biggest game of the season and kick from the half-foot line.

You don’t do that if you intend to win.

That is reality.

[Mopp4]

Discount Double Choke !

[eyedigress]

Seattle took it and more power to them.

Green Bay, being as solid as they are, misunderstood how much of a flash Seattle can be.

They let it go with mismanagement. I would NEVER kick from the 1 with a line GB had.

[Pikachu_Dad]

Well 80 psi is 80 psi (pounds force per square inch)...

[Dr. Ursus]

The scorpion And the frog comes to mind.

[Pikachu_Dad]

How much does a ball weigh in 30 degrees as opposed to 8o ? How "tight" is a 30 degree ball as opposed to the same inflation psi in 80 ? I wonder, do they ever just use Nitrogen instead of Air? Tires with Nitrogen last longer and leak less. At 80 psig and 30 F, the density of air is 0.5236 lb/ft3 At 80 psig and 80 F, the density of air is 0.4870 lb/ft3. Volume of a football is 0.149628 ft3 (4,237 cm3)and the weight of the ball without air is 0.9061 lbs. So the ball filled with 30 F air would weigh 0.9844 lbs. and the ball filled with 80 F air would weigh 0.9790 lbs for a difference of 0.0055 lbs (0.088 oz or 2.5 grams) ==================================== These cats say the volume of a football is http://www.csus.edu/indiv/o/oldenburgj/ENGR1A/NFLFootballWtCalc.pdf NFL Football Weight Calculation Figure 1. Football axes: a is the polar axis, b is the equatorial axis Physical Measurements (at 20 °C) Weight of Football without air – WF = 14.5 Oz = 411 g a = 14.0 cm, b = 8.50 cm Guage Pressure -- PG = 13 psi (Pressure above Atmospheric) Atmospheric Pressure – PA = 14.504 psi Pressure of Football – PF = PA + PG = 27.504 psi Molecular Weight of Air – mWAir = 28.96 g/mol Molecular Weight of He – mWHe = 4.00 g/mol Molecular Volume – mV = 24506 cm3/mol Volume of Football – VF = (4/3)πab2 = 4237 cm3 Calculation of Weight Weight of Air in Football = € WAir = mWAir PFVF (mV)PA  = 9.67 g Wight of He in Football = € WHe = mWHe PFVF (mV)PA  = 1.34 g Weight of Football with Air = WF(Air) = WF + WAir = 421 g = 0.421 kg Weight of Football with He = WF(He) = WF + WAir = 412 g = 0.412 kg Conclusion: The He-filled football is about 2% lighter than the Air-filled football.

[Pikachu_Dad]

Now why did I use 80 psi. that is just way to high.

There were just too many 80’s in his post... :(

“The NFL has set specific weight and air pressure standards for the balls used in the game. The ball must be inflated between 12.5 to 13.5 pounds per square inch (psi) and must weigh 14 to 15 oz.”

[Pikachu_Dad]

At 80 psig and 30 F, the density of air is 0.1528 lb/ft3

At 80 psig and 80 F, the density of air is 0.13386 lb/ft3.

Volume of a football is 0.149628 ft3 (4,237 cm3)and the weight of the ball without air is 14.5 oz.

So the air added to the football at 30F is 0.365 oz.

and the air added to the football at 80 F is 0.332 oz

So the difference in the weight of the football at the same pressure is 0.034 oz.

[Pikachu_Dad]

Would you WEIGH the football to determine the PSI or MEASURE THE PRESSURE ?!?

Seems to me you would MEASURE THE PRESSURE.

Statment says the ball was WEIGHED.

If a football weighs about 411 grams, and the air is only adding 10 grams to that weight. They would have to have some pretty good scales to measure the difference. The football being wet or dry probably has a bigger effect.

“To gain an advantage and make a ball easier to grip in poor weather conditions, a team might take air out of the ball. During the Patriots game, a ball was weighed and believed to be below the required 12.5 to 13.5 pounds per square inch. Should the Patriots be found guilty, they would be subject to lost draft picks and/or a lofty fine.”

[Colofornian]

Fact is if 2 refs had been doing their jobs seahawks would have lost...they had 2nd and 31 on first td drive...should have been 2nd and 46...ref said packers declined roughing penalty by offensive lineman...but it occurred when ball was down and should have been tacked on as deadbolt penalty...then on 2nd td drive Kearse clearly does hold to prevent defender in front of him from getting possible pick..could have impacted td drive

[SkyDancer]

[Cyclone59]

I called the outcome of the Packers game when the Packers picked off that last interception with about 8 minutes left in the game. I didn’t see the Packers making it a tie. Number 38 did a QB slide instead of running it back. Then the lame play calling of 3 runs, 2 of which were losses. Although it ran down the clock almost 4 minutes. Those 4 plays just made me think that the Packers didn’t want it or it was planned.....

[dfwgator]

but it occurred when ball was down and should have been tacked on as deadbolt penalty

I was wondering why that wasn't a dead ball foul.

[Mad Dawgg]

OK the first one is LOL funny!

[M.A.Meddybemps]

“Discount Double Choke !”

Best line of the thread. Well done sir!

[eyedigress]

Tell me how the line switched from the 4 to the 19.

I also have questions about the facemask against a defensive player on the receiver......

The NFL can kiss my ass. They are not to be trusted.

When I say these things, it is quite observant and they have lost my trust.

[Zman]

Let’s see then: how does that figure into Blount’s gashing them for 140 yards on the ground?

[knarf]

I just KNEW a FReeper would come up with mobius loop equations ... thanx

I'll really attempt to read slowly and try to digest this