No, I don’t, I have made it clear that I agree some of the story is myth. We agree more on this case than you think. Even if we still have clear differing points of view. You seem to have a problem with anyone who is even vaguely critical of the people that night.
‘The 38 figure is insane and has been completely refuted.’
Agreed. And agreed with since my first post.
‘The woman died in the arms of a neighbor - did you know that’
Yes. I have made it clear by my posts that I am well versed in the case. Given that I told you about Sandra Zehler, I think its also clear I know my American murders. And I do: crime is an interest of mine. American and British and others.
‘Brits and Europeans who become expert in the Kitty Genovese saga do so because they are looking for evidence that America is somehow less pleasant than their own land. It’s a comforting fallacy.’
Oh dear. That just silly paranoia, and you are better than that.
(BTW, I don’t need a 50 year old case to prove I live in a safer country, I only need crime figures. -—sarc)
‘I can’t think of one American who even knows the name of Myra Hindley. Well, aside from me. But that’s only ‘cause she croaked while I was in London. We generally mind our own business.’
I would characterise the lack of knowledge in less charitable terms, but lets not start WW3, LOL.
Do you know who Michael Hoffman is?
Did you now that at least 2 people opened their window at 3am to chase the killer off? He ran off during this time; only to reappear and attack again. The rest were woken up from deep sleep to peer out the window - and saw nothing. The poor girl had limped around the corner. The main villain of the apartment dwellers was the asst. super who declined to call the police. (In those days, we had no 911 - your 999, I think.) People had to scramble for their telephone books, look up the number which is generally hard to find in the way our phone books are constructed. Some did call in to the police.
38 people - actually 49 originally - were interviewed; they were not witnesses just people who lived on both sides of the street. There were only two genuine witnesses who saw the stabbing. One thought it was a punch not a stab, I believe.
Given this situation, I do not believe the second murder you cite was any different. Did it not occur to you that once it came on the police blotter that a murder had occurred in the same location, that reporters would rush to the scene and recreate the scenario? That's what reporters do: they look for a hook. You live in a country that also has a tabloid culture so you should know this.
Also, since you admit you really know nothing about living in this country, you should know that in 1965, NYC was still a relatively safe city to live in. We still had Mayor Wagner. It's possible that people in the apartment didn't even think that a murder was occurring. (Some thought it was two drunks.) Ten years later, the city was at an all time low and people were much more aware of street crime.
My knowledge of ludicrous European interest in crime & poverty comes from my youth as a NYC tour guide - the German tourists used to demand a tour of the South Bronx rather than Greenwich Village. Over and over again. Too stupid to even realize that all tours were preplanned and we couldn't go into Brixton...er, the South Bronx.
You like to study American crime statistics - I like to read about English kings. Yeah, I guess we differ.