[kiryandil]

Since we’re on to natural rights, here’s a question: Do individuals have natural right of secession? That is to say, can you, for example, declare yourself and your house to be a different country?

Oh, BTW - you do realize that question sounds like a Federal agent fishing for Sovereign Citizens, don't you?

Given that you've asked it many times before, by your own admission, it makes me wonder if one of us is going after the question "like it's our job".

And I know it's not my job... LOL! :)

[Bubba Ho-Tep]

I'm pretty sure that the only time the government gives a crap about "sovereign citizens" is when they don't pay their taxes, and when that's the case, they have other ways of figuring out they haven't gotten their money and don't give a crap what reason the individual gives.

But on a philosophical level the sovereign citizen question is connected, and it goes to basic theories of government, Hobbes, Locke, and Rousseau, the social contract, the state of nature and so on. So does an individual have a natural right to simply "opt out" of government and declare it has no more power to compel them?