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To: Pelham
Question: Help me understand...Why would any mortgage company/bank make a loan that they knew would not be paid back? Only a law like CRA would make this possible? No one goes into business to lose money.

Seriously, help me here...
185 posted on 01/15/2015 8:21:43 AM PST by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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To: Jan_Sobieski
Why would any mortgage company/bank make a loan that they knew would not be paid back?

Because they could collect a pile of miscellaneous fees from originating the loan and then sell it to the FHA/FNMA and let THEM worry about getting paid back.

191 posted on 01/15/2015 9:09:32 AM PST by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: Jan_Sobieski

“Question: Help me understand...Why would any mortgage company/bank make a loan that they knew would not be paid back? Only a law like CRA would make this possible? No one goes into business to lose money.”

Argent, Ameriquest, and the similar firms that they had spawned didn’t hold on to the mortgages that they wrote. So the mortgage writers weren’t exposed to the default risk. The mortgages were bundled and sold off to investors as CDOs, CDOs Squared and a variety of similar products.

The CDO buyers weren’t able to gauge the quality of the mortgages inside the CDOs without examining them individually and they weren’t going to spend the time to do it. You’re talking about thousands of mortgages in each CDO. In many cases they only “owned” slices of a particular mortgage anyway, making the whole deal more complex.

CDO investors were accustomed to the ‘conforming loan’ paper required by Fannie and Freddie. Conforming loan paper has a very good record of safety. But the new mortgage paper that the investors were buying from private bundlers wasn’t conforming paper. It was exotic and high risk with no proven track record.

CDO buyers trusted the ratings given this paper by the big rating agencies. Moodys, S&P, that sort. The problem is the rating agencies were rating the paper as AAA when it turned out to be junk.

One big reason that the entire investment industry blundered into this extremely risky world is because they were all relying on a risk formula that few of them appeared to understand. This is David X Li’s gaussian copula function which he had borrowed from the life insurance industry. The financiers grabbed on to this formula because it appeared to give them a way to calculate the risk of these hard to value products. But unless they understood the math behind it they didn’t appreciate its limitations.

Another more sinister reason these risky mortgages were written involves credit default swaps (CDS), a sort of insurance product for bonds. It was possible to buy CDSs that would pay off if a CDO bundle of mortgages defaulted. And you could buy as many CDSs against a particular CDO as you wanted. In essence it was like buying a bunch of life insurance policies on your neighbor’s life. You might make a bundle if you had inside knowledge that your neighbor was very sick.

By the end of the bubble the demand for high risk mortgage paper was driving the writing of the mortgages, a tail wags the dog situation. CDO makers wanted all the high risk paper that they could get so that they could write derivatives against the CDOs. They appeared to want the riskiest paper possible. If someone knew that the mortgages inside these CDOs were doomed to fail then that someone could buy a load of credit default swaps against the mortgage paper and be guaranteed a huge windfall when the mortgages blew up. There are some hedge funds that made billions of dollars in just this fashion when the bubble popped. No one has been prosecuted so apparently no laws were broken.


193 posted on 01/15/2015 9:44:47 AM PST by Pelham (WWIII. Islam vs the West)
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To: Jan_Sobieski
Why would any mortgage company/bank make a loan that they knew would not be paid back?

Because the mortgage companies were selling them to Wall Street companies who were bundling them by the thousands into CDOs, then selling tranches of those to investors who were looking for return, misleading them as to the risk. Everyone along the line up to those investors was making money off fees and didn't care about risk, since they weren't going to hold the loan.

194 posted on 01/15/2015 9:52:20 AM PST by Bubba Ho-Tep ("The rat always knows when he's in with weasels"-- Tom Waits)
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