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Suncor (Energy) Cuts Capex By $1 Billion, Fires 1000, Implements Hiring Freeze
Zerohedge ^ | 1-13-2015 | Durden

Posted on 01/13/2015 1:55:20 PM PST by tcrlaf

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To: thackney
If you cannot be sensible don't expect a sensible answer.

Lower fuel will promote a boom. Is that wrong? Please tell me how that's wrong.

21 posted on 01/13/2015 6:16:57 PM PST by MaxMax (Pay Attention and you'll be pissed off too! FIRE BOEHNER, NOW!)
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To: MaxMax

Is that to say all past significant gasoline price drops did not create a boom, but this one magically will?

I suspect, you don’t understand how many direct and indirect jobs are driven from the oil/gas industry.


22 posted on 01/13/2015 6:27:12 PM PST by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: thackney
I read. Here you go, one for the road..

The State Journal
Federal report finds that removing crude oil export barriers would lower gas prices, promote domestic production
Posted: Oct 20, 2014 2:02 PM CDT
By Sarah Tincher, Energy Reporter

A report released from the Government Accountability Office Oct. 20 found that removing export barriers for U.S. crude oil
could incentivize higher domestic production, create more jobs, lower the trade deficit and put downward pressure on gasoline prices.


Now go search for Lower gas means more jobs and read up. Or however you
want to search for that news. I'm not chasing all the reports because
you don't have a clue about what "I mean".

23 posted on 01/13/2015 6:39:12 PM PST by MaxMax (Pay Attention and you'll be pissed off too! FIRE BOEHNER, NOW!)
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To: MaxMax

Do you equate “removing crude oil export bans” with a ~50% drop in oil prices?

That article is talking about creating greater demand for US oil production and creating jobs in the oil industry and supporting business. That is the opposite of what is happening now.


24 posted on 01/13/2015 6:43:08 PM PST by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: MaxMax

In 1998-99 and late 2008, 2009 we had significant drops in gasoline prices.

Can you point to the job booms in those time periods?

Reality is, there is some job increase with lower gasoline prices. But there is also significant job losses for the total US economy at the same time from the oil industry, and steel, pumps, motors, etc companies that sell to them.


25 posted on 01/13/2015 6:46:26 PM PST by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: thackney
Are you 12-years old?

I said "Cheap fuel will fuel our economy into a Boom if our Government allows it.

How does that confuse you?

26 posted on 01/13/2015 6:48:01 PM PST by MaxMax (Pay Attention and you'll be pissed off too! FIRE BOEHNER, NOW!)
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To: thackney
Reality is, there is some job increase with lower gasoline prices.

Right.

27 posted on 01/13/2015 6:54:49 PM PST by MaxMax (Pay Attention and you'll be pissed off too! FIRE BOEHNER, NOW!)
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To: MaxMax

You pointed to an article talking about growing the oil industry by removing the export ban and creating more oil industry jobs, and their supporting businesses.

That is the opposite of what is happening now. The oil industry is pulling back and laying people off.

We have gone through price drops and oil industry busts before. Where were the economic boom in our economy in 1998~99, and late 2008~09?


28 posted on 01/14/2015 4:32:00 AM PST by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: MaxMax

The Crashing Price Of Oil Is Going To Rip The Global Economy To Shreds
http://beforeitsnews.com/alternative/2015/01/the-crashing-price-of-oil-is-going-to-rip-the-global-economy-to-shreds-3091312.html

As I write this, the price of U.S. oil is sitting at $45.76 a barrel. It has fallen by more than 60 dollars a barrel since June. There is only one other time in history when we have seen anything like this happen before. That was in 2008, just prior to the worst financial crisis since the Great Depression.

But following the financial crisis of 2008, the price of oil rebounded fairly rapidly. As you will see below, there are very strong reasons to believe that it will not happen this time. And the longer the price of oil stays this low, the worse our problems are going to get. At a price of less than $50 a barrel, it is just a matter of time before we see a huge wave of energy company bankruptcies, massive job losses, a junk bond crash followed by a stock market crash, and a crisis in commodity derivatives unlike anything that we have ever seen before. So let’s hope that a very unlikely miracle happens and the price of oil rebounds substantially in the months ahead. Because if not, the price of oil is going to absolutely rip the global economy to shreds.


29 posted on 01/14/2015 4:39:02 AM PST by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: Lurkina.n.Learnin; thackney

The piece noted contractors

The work force includes lots and lots of contractors. It would seem that the $1 billion cut would directly involve the designers of shelved or delayed future projects.

For projects under contract one wonders if there will be a slowing resulting in a decrease in contractor workers. At 6.8 billion there would seem to be lots of both direct and contract employees to remain


30 posted on 01/14/2015 4:48:29 AM PST by bert ((K.E.; N.P.; GOPc.;+12, 73, ..... Obama is public enemy #1)
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To: bert

Most of the work force involve in Capital Expenditures for the oil/gas industry is contractors (like me).


31 posted on 01/14/2015 5:20:33 AM PST by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: thackney
So let’s hope that a very unlikely miracle happens and the price of oil rebounds substantially in the months ahead. Because if not, the price of oil is going to absolutely rip the global economy to shreds.

IMO, the 14-year period of low oil prices from 86-99 extended the Reagan boom. When oil prices moved up after 99, it exacerbated the recessionary effects of the dot com bust. $100 oil slowed the global economy to a crawl. Sub-$50 oil will give the global economy a real shot in the arm, and that may be what the Saudis intend. The fear is presumably of a global spiral into economic depression, which would tank oil demand to the levels that sent prices into the 30's in 1998. The quintupling of oil prices after 99 has been a major economic drag. The effect of this spike on world economies mirrors that of OPEC's post-Yom Kippur price hikes in the 70's and early 80's.

32 posted on 01/14/2015 5:58:38 AM PST by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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The fear is presumably of a global spiral into economic depression, which would tank oil demand to the levels that sent prices into the 30's in 1998 2008.
33 posted on 01/14/2015 5:59:37 AM PST by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: Zhang Fei

I read the different articles to show the oil price drop with the slowing global oil demand are the result of a global economy already in decline.


34 posted on 01/14/2015 6:04:40 AM PST by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: thackney

My suspicion is that we’re viewing the Democrat Economic Effect. Obama and the Dems have created a regulatory and tax nightmare for the economy. That’s slowed growth in the US (and I blame Bush for all the bailouts, TARP, etc.) which is 25% of the world economy.

Worse, is that the rest of the world doubled down on socialism. China, Europe, and Japan all spent themselves silly. They depend on us for the spark to keep their socialist dreams alive. They’ll have to reset to capitalism at some point, hopefully sooner rather than later.

The mere existence of the GOP Congress will mitigate some of the worst Obama has done, but they have to act to free up commerce. Americans when left alone thrive. All this crony capitalism misallocates resources and benefits politicians at the expense of the people. It’s a mess.

What will you do if your contract isn’t renewed?


35 posted on 01/19/2015 11:22:13 AM PST by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: thackney

Exactly.........


36 posted on 01/19/2015 11:25:08 AM PST by Osage Orange (I have strong feelings about gun control. If there's a gun around, I want to be controlling it.)
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To: 1010RD
What will you do if your contract isn’t renewed?

Was that specific to me or a rhetorical question?

37 posted on 01/19/2015 11:28:02 AM PST by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: MaxMax; thackney
Just a nudge...

That type of reply...will not fly.

38 posted on 01/19/2015 11:32:01 AM PST by Osage Orange (I have strong feelings about gun control. If there's a gun around, I want to be controlling it.)
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To: thackney

FReepmail me if you’re going to answer it personally. My guess is that you’ll find a replacement and not sit around.


39 posted on 01/19/2015 1:04:52 PM PST by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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