[JohnBovenmyer]

Ill. state constitution says you can’t lower or not pay those pensions. Does it say you can’t tax them? Slap a 20%, or whatever other number makes the math work, tax on Ill. public pensions, to be taken out of their pension checks in advance. Then apply those collections to the next round of pension checks. Don’t hold it to any higher legal standard than that used to justify any of the other taxes in the state, just sell it politically. You could also make it progressive and brag of taxing the unions’ fat cats to help the little guys keep their meager pensions.

[Dr. Sivana]

Does it say you can’t tax them? Slap a 20%, or whatever other number makes the math work, tax on Ill. public pensions, to be taken out of their pension checks in advance.

Well, if you continue to deduct SS on those who are already receiving it, why not? Unfortunately, that will not be politically feasible in Illinois until after the collapse, which will be all the worse as every last future resouce is being sold to stall the collapse.

If Wisconsin had a Chicago in it, Walker's reforms would have never happened.