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Hurts So Good: When Exactly Are Falling Prices Bad?
Townhall.com ^ | January 6, 2015 | Peter Schiff

Posted on 01/06/2015 12:08:44 PM PST by Kaslin

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1 posted on 01/06/2015 12:08:44 PM PST by Kaslin
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Their theory is that if consumers believe that prices will fall over time that they will curtail their purchases to get better deals down the road.

You mean like all those people that hold off buying electronics and computers because they will be cheaper next year?

2 posted on 01/06/2015 12:20:46 PM PST by Malsua
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>> It should be clear to anyone that consumers individually, and an economy collectively, benefit from lower energy prices.

Plus, low energy prices really tweak the enviroweenies. That’s fun to watch.

Good article but I wish he had included in his analysis inflation/deflation vis a vis cash/debt. I think that’s an important part of the calculus.


3 posted on 01/06/2015 12:21:18 PM PST by Nervous Tick (There is no "allah" but satan, and mohammed is his demon.)
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Good article but I wish he had included in his analysis inflation/deflation vis a vis cash/debt. I think that’s an important part of the calculus.
Then why not include it yourself?

4 posted on 01/06/2015 12:25:42 PM PST by conservatism_IS_compassion ("Liberalism” is a conspiracy against the public by wire-service journalism.)
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To: Malsua

The strong dollar will make foreign goods cheaper for U.S. but also makes U.S. good more expensive for others. Many U.S. companies with heavy reliance on foreign sales will find 2015 a difficult year.


5 posted on 01/06/2015 12:25:51 PM PST by jonose
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To: Kaslin

Thanks for posting. I had not read that take before.


6 posted on 01/06/2015 12:26:05 PM PST by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: Kaslin

“deflation” = rising purchasing power of the dollar. How is that bad?

It’s not bad, but some people with degrees in economics think it’s bad.

It’s good because it retains and possibly increases the value of savings and property.


7 posted on 01/06/2015 12:30:39 PM PST by I want the USA back (Media: completely irresponsible. Complicit in the destruction of this country.)
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I see a potential problem with oil prices going down... high enough oil prices would have driven up the cost of transporting goods from overseas and reduced some of the outsourcing... leading to jobs coming back here.

I wonder if lower transportation costs will lead to more outsourcing and more imports?


8 posted on 01/06/2015 12:32:08 PM PST by baltimorepoet
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>> Then why not include it yourself?

Good question with a simple answer!

I’m not as smart as Schiff (and others of his stature). I’d like to see what THEY have to say.


9 posted on 01/06/2015 12:32:18 PM PST by Nervous Tick (There is no "allah" but satan, and mohammed is his demon.)
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Well, I am enjoying the lower gas prices, but they are still higher than they were when that arrogant pos occupant was inaugurated for his first term


10 posted on 01/06/2015 12:37:03 PM PST by Kaslin (He needed the ignorant to reelect him, and he got them. Now we all have to pay the consequenses)
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To: Malsua

In theory you can hold off and wait for that future price drop, but in practice you eventually dive in and get that computer if you’re going to do anything useful other than wait.


11 posted on 01/06/2015 12:47:26 PM PST by Corey Ohlis (Visualize Swirled Peas)
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To: Kaslin

The drop in oil price seems to be dragging down the stock market too. I guess the Saudis will have less money to invest?


12 posted on 01/06/2015 12:51:02 PM PST by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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n theory you can hold off and wait for that future price drop, but in practice you eventually dive in and get that computer if you’re going to do anything useful other than wait.

Exactly, which is why saying that people will "forever wait until it's cheaper and kill the economy" is nonsense.

13 posted on 01/06/2015 12:52:21 PM PST by Malsua
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The gooberment is salivating over the low gas prices. They can’t wait to add new gasoline taxes while we are still use to $4 a gallon.


14 posted on 01/06/2015 12:53:18 PM PST by Organic Panic
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The oil speculators should have seen the warning signs when China and Russia signed that US$400 billion natural gas (and eventually petroleum) development deal that may encompass new gas and oil fields in eastern Siberia. As such, speculators are dumping oil like crazy because of the fear that OPEC may within the next 20-25 years lose most of its sales to its two biggest customers, the USA and China, which will create a gigantic glut of oil on the open worldwide market. And it doesn’t help that increasingly strict fuel economy mandates for motor vehicles worldwide could result in a levelling off and possible decline in sales of gasoline (petrol) and diesel fuel.


15 posted on 01/06/2015 1:06:09 PM PST by RayChuang88 (FairTax: America's economic cure)
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I think he mis-states the case. An overall deflation slows the economy primarily because wages are notoriously sticky on the downside. It’s far too difficult to get the existing labor force to accept individual pay cuts, so instead businesses facing lower sales (due to deflation) cut workers instead of wages.

This leaves the ones still working better off because they still have pre-deflation wages to buy deflated goods, but the layoffs drive employment down aggravating, or prolonging, what is already usually a monetary-induced recession.

The last time we experienced this we had the Great Depression. We really don’t want to go there again.

A drop in oil prices is good because it frees up personal resources, but the spending of those resources on other goods will drive up the prices of those goods, offsetting the effect on overall prices. It’s not deflation, but a repricing of goods relative to one another.


16 posted on 01/06/2015 1:23:41 PM PST by Norseman (Defund the Left-Completely!)
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A family member consulted me on buying a computer a few years ago. I said that the computer you want right now will be half price next year, and she said she’d wait until next year, then.
OK, you’ll never buy one!


17 posted on 01/06/2015 1:25:46 PM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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They haven’t dropped below 1.86 where you are?
Just hit 1.84 here.


18 posted on 01/06/2015 1:26:26 PM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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It’s good because it retains and possibly increases the value of savings and property

Yes and no. Your liquid savings will increase in purchasing power, but your property will lose value, able to command progressively fewer of those dollars. Then the danger is that everyone will simultaneously move their assets to cash, further depressing the prices of investments. Look at Russia a few weeks ago when the currency was in free fall and people were rushing out to buy things ahead of price rises. Now imagine the opposite, with everyone trying to sell everything.

19 posted on 01/06/2015 1:26:27 PM PST by Bubba Ho-Tep ("The rat always knows when he's in with weasels"-- Tom Waits)
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To: Norseman

Leftists are bemoaning low prices for the same reason that they supported anything that raised prices -

they want “the masses” to use less of “their” resources.


20 posted on 01/06/2015 1:27:25 PM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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