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‘Selma’ distorts the truth about LBJ
Washington Post ^ | January 5, 2015 | By Richard Cohen

Posted on 01/06/2015 9:41:34 AM PST by Brad from Tennessee

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To: bigdaddy45
"But those marching back in the 60s had legitimate grievances. And anyone who doesn’t see that is living in denial."

Please note that I took the apostrophe out of your "60's". "60's" shows possession. "60s" pluralizes, which is the desired outcome. I'm not trying to be snotty or snippy. I'm simply trying to help you. That same thing has embarrassed me more than once. ;-)

You have not heard me say that anyone did not have legitimate grievances nor have you asked that question. It seems to me that they went about it wrongly. History, again, has proven that the Alabama state trooper's words carry more weight and seem more legitimate than the words of the race hustlers. The bottom line is that MLK was the first 'race hustler', although with good intentions, ideals and he meant well. $hakedown Je$$e, Race-Hustler Sharpton, Obemba, Holder, et al, are riding his coattails.

My favorite MLK quote is about judging the content of one's character rather than the color of his skin. Although his private life was 'questionable'/'dubious' at best.

121 posted on 01/06/2015 12:19:06 PM PST by spel_grammer_an_punct_polise (Why does every totalitarian, political hack think that he knows how to run my life better than I do?)
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To: bigdaddy45

I said nothing about what was or wasn’t done to slaves. I asked what the purpose is of making movies showing the brutality over and over. Is there a threat of slavery being re-instituted?


122 posted on 01/06/2015 12:21:38 PM PST by skeeter
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To: jttpwalsh

If the election wasn’t a sure thing AGAINST LBJ, why would he quit? It’s not like him. Three major murders.....JFK, MLK and RFK. All with ties to LBJ.

“All right, we won’t release the evidence tying him to these murders, but that son-of-a-bitch isn’t going to run again.”


123 posted on 01/06/2015 12:24:30 PM PST by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: Responsibility2nd
“Carter actually wasn’t a bad president.”

I must have been living in a parallel universe. In the America I lived in during 76-80 there was some idiot appeaser, anti-American, “it's all our fault”, let's give away the Panama Canal imbecile running things.

124 posted on 01/06/2015 12:27:04 PM PST by I cannot think of a name
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To: I cannot think of a name
Really, picking a worst president is quite a challenge - although you can be certain he will be a democrap.

Obama- Worst ever in history.
Carter-Second Worst.
LBJ- Third Worst.
Clinton- Fourth Worst.
Wilson- Fifth Worst.
Roosevelt- (FDR) Sixth Worst.
Buchanan- Seventh Worst.
Truman- Eight Worst.

On Carter and LBJ, it's actually pretty close to tied in my opinion.

125 posted on 01/06/2015 12:28:28 PM PST by DiogenesLamp
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To: Brad from Tennessee

I could care less if I ever ever see another God bless black people movie

Last decent movie about Negroes was Zulu Dawn


126 posted on 01/06/2015 12:31:34 PM PST by wardaddy (glenn beck is a nauseous politically correct conservative on LSD)
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To: Dr. Thorne

What proof u have?

Only assassin of that era I suspect had help was Jimmy Ray


127 posted on 01/06/2015 12:34:05 PM PST by wardaddy (glenn beck is a nauseous politically correct conservative on LSD)
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To: A CA Guy
Well it was Republicans pushing that until Johnson saw they were going to lose a voting block, then the Democrats got on board somewhat and still a higher percentage of Republicans voted for civil rights than did Democrats.. Then he did welfare and is recorded saying that this would make the nigg@rs vote Democrat for two hundred years.

Only person so far to accurately clarify/state the history as I understand it. Johnson performed a political masterstroke with that tactic. It has kept Democrats in power ever since.

It was also the final straw that broke the camel's back, but it was inevitable once Republicans removed the requirement of paying taxes from voting.

"Entitlements" are what is killing us now. Things will burn and people will die becomes of the perverse incentives this system has created.

128 posted on 01/06/2015 12:35:53 PM PST by DiogenesLamp
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To: blueunicorn6

“All right, we won’t release the evidence tying him to these murders, but that son-of-a-bitch isn’t going to run again.”


Thanks for your reply; I wouldn’t put anything past LBJ, but if he had RFK killed, why did he give up, three months before the assassination?


129 posted on 01/06/2015 12:36:33 PM PST by jttpwalsh
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda

Have you seen the unintentionally hilarious Django flick?

Tarentino slipped into Blaxploitation parody territory and never even noticed.


130 posted on 01/06/2015 12:47:59 PM PST by Salamander (No more nights of blood and fire..)
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To: bigdaddy45
Alabama State Troopers beating the sh*t out of a bunch of unarmed people walking across a bridge in suits and ties was one of the small steps that brought us to where we are today.

I'm not sure if you're being sarcastic or not. Really.

In any case, yes, "Selma" (however you choose to describe it) was an early step in getting where we are today. If you think that "where we are today" is good, or even necessarily an improvement ... I don't agree. In many ways, we've gone from the frying pan to the fire, and it will end badly.

131 posted on 01/06/2015 12:48:40 PM PST by NorthMountain
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To: Oliviaforever
The 1964 Election was a critical moment in American electoral politics and that that moment was defined by Barry Goldwater opposing the Civil Rights Act and then getting the GOP nomination the same year.

Had Goldwater or the GOP nominee supported the Civil Rights Act in 1964, blacks would not be voting 90% for the Democratic Party.

Nonsense. What swung the black vote towards the Democrats was this.

That is also what wrecked black society from the ground up, and is now wrecking the lower socio-economic classes of white society as well. Daniel Patrick Moynihan pointed this out back in the mid sixties.

I had not been aware that Barry Goldwater opposed the civil rights act of 1964, but after having looked at the description of it in Wikipedia, I can understand fully why Barry Goldwater would have opposed it.

It requires forced association in opposition to free will. It is quite contrary to Libertarian philosophy on many points. It is an attempt to force morality on people at the point of a gun.

132 posted on 01/06/2015 12:48:45 PM PST by DiogenesLamp
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To: bigdaddy45

No one wants heroes, now.

Just handouts.


133 posted on 01/06/2015 12:49:38 PM PST by Salamander (No more nights of blood and fire..)
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To: wardaddy
I could care less if I ever ever see another God bless black people movie

I not only couldn't care less, I make it a point to not see them. I also don't watch teevee shows showcasing magical negros. if I want to hear/see hypocritical lies, I'd listen to an Obola speech.
134 posted on 01/06/2015 12:51:14 PM PST by mrsmel (One Who Can See)
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To: wardaddy

You would love Key & Peele.

Nothing is sacred.


135 posted on 01/06/2015 12:53:05 PM PST by Salamander (No more nights of blood and fire..)
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To: Responsibility2nd
Save and bookmark.

keywords: LBJ VOTING DEMOCRATIC 200 YEARS

You weren't familiar with that quote? Here's another.

“These Negroes, they’re getting pretty uppity these days and that’s a problem for us since they’ve got something now they never had before, the political pull to back up their uppityness. Now we’ve got to do something about this, we’ve got to give them a little something, just enough to quiet them down, not enough to make a difference. For if we don’t move at all, then their allies will line up against us and there’ll be no way of stopping them, we’ll lose the filibuster and there’ll be no way of putting a brake on all sorts of wild legislation. It’ll be Reconstruction all over again.”

-Lyndon Baines Johnson-

And source.

136 posted on 01/06/2015 12:54:06 PM PST by DiogenesLamp
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To: nascarnation
The “War on Poverty” was a brilliant plan. Not sure who thought it up, but is sure gave the Dems a locked in base of votes.

That it was. He turned the Republican's own plan against them. Lyndon Baines Johnson was a lot of bad things, but no one can doubt that he was a master politician. He turned a disaster for his party into a Bonanza.

137 posted on 01/06/2015 12:56:58 PM PST by DiogenesLamp
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To: Oliviaforever

I have conceded that involuntary indenture is essentially abusive. However, the degree of abuse has a much wider range than you seem willing to concede.


138 posted on 01/06/2015 1:08:09 PM PST by Albion Wilde (It is better to offend a human being than to offend God.)
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To: bigdaddy45
The civil rights movement had some genuine heroes back in the day. Rosa Parks was a brave lady. MLK Jr, for all of his flaws, had guts. The current crowd is a bunch of losers who can’t let go of the past.

Not only guts, but MLK was shrewd. He took exactly the right course to advance his cause. Malcolm X tactics would have just gotten a whole lot of people killed and set back the cause.

I also point out that MLK was Pro-Gun, Anti-Sodomy, Pro-Life, Pro-God and Republican.

139 posted on 01/06/2015 1:10:10 PM PST by DiogenesLamp
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To: Brad from Tennessee
When the Pentagon was telling LBJ that the 1968 Tet Offensive was a U.S. victory, with North Vietnam suffering irreplaceable losses, Johnson said reality didn't matter as much as the CBS Evening News. “When I've lost Cronkite I've lost middle America.”

And in this regard, Johnson was also right. The media has become the distorting factor in American politics. We only get to hear what Left Wing Liberal Democrat Union members from New York think about issues, or what *THEY* think is important, and so everything that happens in politics nowadays is twisted by this pervasive left-wing bias.

The primary efforts of conservatives all across this nation ought to be to take away the power to shape the narrative from these Liberal Democrats who run these News and Entertainment media propaganda outfits.

140 posted on 01/06/2015 1:15:11 PM PST by DiogenesLamp
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