Posted on 01/02/2015 6:43:20 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks
The CIA should be abolished.
After a trial run of 67 years, the agency has proven a sorcerer’s apprentice. The director and his subordinates have became insufferably arrogant Platonic Guardians hiding behind secrecy in the belief that the rest of us are too stupid or naive to judge what risks to accept to preserve liberty and the rule of law. The CIA has made Americans less safe.
Its incorrigible anti-democratic ethos was epitomized by legendary chief of counterintelligence James J. Angleton. He voiced contempt for the Church Committee’s investigation of chronic agency abuses, i.e., the “Family Jewels.” As reported in The New York Times, Angleton likened the CIA to a medieval city occupied by an invading army, i.e., the Congress of the United States. To the same effect, Director William J. Casey told Church Committee investigator Loch K. Johnson that the congressional role was to “stay the [expletive] out of my business.”
The CIA will never accept that it works for we the people and our representatives in Congress; and, that the United States Constitution and laws govern everything the CIA does. It will never accept accountability for its actions — including torture, kidnappings, and extrajudicial killings—because it salutes the motto that the ends justify the means, that savagery is justified to defeat perceived savages.
The CIA is unAmerican. It sneers at our nation’s signature creed that it is better to risk being the victim of injustice than to be complicit in it.
President Harry Truman, father of the CIA in 1947, came to regret his offspring. Sen. Daniel Patrick Moynihan, former New York Democrat and former vice chairman of the Senate Intelligence Committee, introduced legislation in 1991 and 1995 to abolish the agency. Their views were not misplaced.
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Kind of — it used to be that the legal idea we founded our judicial-system on was better that a dozen guilty men should be spared than one innocent condemned
. (See Blackstone's Formulation)
This is why there's the grand jury (which determines if a trial should occur) and a petite jury (that sits and renders a verdict).
acts in the shadowsis rather more conducive to corruption.
Believe me, judgement in the intel community runs deep and can be very difficult.
No one is a superstar.
Sounds like he’s related to ‘Sein Fein.’
Funny thing is most of the outraged people in the world are paying to be spied on.
There is a GPS chip in your phone.
They have you all paying to talk on a pipe.
Bey Bruce tapped this out on his Ipad.
Think this forum is not monitored?
You forgot Dept of Agriculture, Dept of Energy, and the Fed.
Naw. Just De-Hillary-ize it. Other offices need to go first.
>> He’s an outspoken critic of NSA. <<
All the more reason to abolish his writings.
>> Is our nation to be blind in a world filled with predators? I don’t think so. <<
Well, I’d say that the NSA haters and bashers here on FR are basically blind to the predators we face.
“Are you telling me that Capitalism could not withstand Communism in “the marketplace of ideas”?”
Communism never intended to compete with us in any free market. When did they ever abide by the will of the people to choose some other form of government?
No, Communists only make pretenses of that, but they always scheme to take power by subterfuge and violence.
Hasn’t it been pretty well privatized?
Actually, communism exploits free markets expertly.
” ..... CIA should be abolished.”
The problem I have with the CIA now is that I believe they’re far to political now. And their political position now is on the LEFT.
CIA employees like their job security and have become part of big government.
In the world we now live in, if we didn’t have a CIA, we’d have to invent one.
I never said it did.
What I said is that we currently have something that isn't a free market, but pretends to be (which is why a free market would shock it).
When did they ever abide by the will of the people to choose some other form of government?
Not the point, not the question — the point/question is if Capitalism needs to have it's proponents use force to stamp out other ideas (namely Communism).
No, Communists only make pretenses of that, but they always scheme to take power by subterfuge and violence.
And how is that different that the government we have now and, indeed, have had for as long as I can [personally] remember?
(Waco and Ruby Ridge are good illustrations of that.)
I've been called a basher
because I believe that the Fourth Amendment means what it says, that the people should be secure in their persons, papers, and possessions against [unreasonable] search and seizure; furthermore, I assert that any search without a warrant is unreasonable.
There's a great Battlestar Galactica quote about why military and police should be kept separate: because when they become one they view the people as the enemy. The same applies to our intelligence communities: they will see us as the enemy now that they have been turned against us. (Heck, if you don't believe that they're unscrupulous about the powers they have to conduct domestic intel, look up the word loveint
.)
If we are going to get rid of some of the acronym branches, we need to start with the most destructive ones first... DHS, NSA, EPA, ATF
I count on it and I think most others do as well. When I post, I completely anticipate a few at the top will occasionally click a google link and see our thoughts on matters... and that includes everyone down to the low level DUmmies. Probably not the most efficient way to distribute ones ideals, but it puts it out there.
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