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2014: Year of Futility in the Fight Against Climate Change
Heartland ^ | 12/31/14 | Steve Goreham

Posted on 01/02/2015 1:02:54 PM PST by Libloather

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To: Libloather

“In June, the EPA proposed new restrictions on carbon emissions that would make it vitually impossible to build a new coal-fired plant in the US.”

Let’s make it clear that it’s illegal for the fascist EPA to write laws. Only Congress may write laws. The fact that Congress allows this unconstitutional law-writing tells us that Congress is complicent in imposing unlawful and seditious fascism on Americans.

Time for the Rostkenowski solution:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TboXsOuMQGU


21 posted on 01/02/2015 4:35:08 PM PST by sergeantdave
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To: Libloather

With a payoff size of the one the Global Climate Change hoax promises you bet he won’t give up.


22 posted on 01/02/2015 5:03:37 PM PST by skeeter
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To: zeestephen

It is physically impossible to have more surface ice area without a thickening. The Ice would break up and not be able to stay solid otherwise. Physics always rules.


23 posted on 01/02/2015 5:39:53 PM PST by justa-hairyape (The user name is sarcastic. Although at times it may not appear that way.)
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To: Libloather

I don’t understand how anyone can formulate such a phrase as “fight against Climate Change” and not realize what a load of nonsense it is. How does one fight that? More basically, what the hell is “climate change”? Do they listen to themselves?


24 posted on 01/02/2015 6:05:06 PM PST by tubalcane
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The Warmists claim it's “thin” ice in relative terms.

In other words - 1 square mile of 6 foot ice is just half as much as 1 square mile of 12 foot ice.

25 posted on 01/02/2015 6:06:58 PM PST by zeestephen
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I have been avoiding ice discussions because I don't have a counter argument, or a data link, for the “thinner ice” ice issue.

That should be irrelevant. They have no proof or documentation for their melting assertion; why should you need a documented counterargument?

Rule #1 -- Never accept their premise...

26 posted on 01/02/2015 6:31:56 PM PST by publius911 (Formerly Publius6961)
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To: zeestephen

You cannot support thin ice at perimeters without a thickening of the old ice. The two have too occur simultaneously. Otherwise it all breaks apart.


27 posted on 01/02/2015 8:02:21 PM PST by justa-hairyape (The user name is sarcastic. Although at times it may not appear that way.)
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To: zeestephen
As for the Antarctic, the Warmists now claim that ice below the continental surface ice is melting and runs off into the surrounding sea. That flow of ice melt, according to the Warmists, chills the sea, causes more sea ice to form, but, the net result is less total ice, just more surface ice.

The new Antarctic ice is 800 miles from the continent so it has nothing to do with fresh water or colder water. It is due to two factors, colder weather and wind blowing ice away from the continent. The wind is a factor only in part of West Antarctica. The rest is simply colder weather (also generally stormier but that means winds blowing towards the continent).

The Arctic ice thickness comes from a model and it is probably at least a little bogus. For one thing the model shows volume going to zero in 20 years which will not happen. Second, the volume bounces back impossible amounts (e.g. 50% increase in one year) which shows they really are not estimating volume properly. The bottom of this chart is zero ice: http://psc.apl.uw.edu/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/schweiger/ice_volume/BPIOMASIceVolumeAnomalyCurrentV2.1.png (although they are obfuscating it by using the anomaly) and that is absurd.

28 posted on 01/02/2015 8:23:52 PM PST by palmer (Free is when you don't have to pay for nothing. Or do nothing. We want Obamanet.)
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