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You just CAN’T WAIT for a fedgov that is big, powerful, costly and freedom taking enough to go after Colorado pot users, even after they voted in favor?

This is an example of federalism that happens to be correct. The states cannot pass laws which violate federal laws. I believe we fought this thing called "THE CIVIL WAR" to establish that states cannot do such a thing.

Smoking pot is not a "freedom" it's a dangerous indulgence that harms the users and often many people around them as well. Every pot-head I know is on welfare or some other form of government assistance like SSI. You don't think there "freedom" is just a bit too costly for the rest of us?

25 posted on 12/27/2014 4:55:10 PM PST by DiogenesLamp (Partus Sequitur Patrem)
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To: DiogenesLamp

Okay, Federalism-lover, exactly what is it that gives the Federal Government jurisdiction to pass laws about drugs? And no using interpretations that allow them to rule on EVERYTHING, because that means that you do not support Federalism, you support authoritarianism. Either the Fedgov has limits, or it does not. If it does (and it should), how do you justify this being on their list, and not on the states?


30 posted on 12/27/2014 5:02:45 PM PST by Teacher317 (We have now sunk to a depth at which restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men)
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To: DiogenesLamp
The states cannot pass laws which violate federal laws. I believe we fought this thing called "THE CIVIL WAR" to establish that states cannot do such a thing.

Uh, no. The CW amendments prohibited the States from enforcing laws that violate the privileges and immunities in the Constitution, a far cry from the scope you imply.

35 posted on 12/27/2014 5:11:59 PM PST by Carry_Okie (The environment is too complex and too important to manage by government regulation.)
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To: DiogenesLamp

boy, do YOU have it backwards... the feds cannot pass laws OTHER THAN their enumerated powers- and drug use is not one of those- each state has a right to make its own policy and laws for drug use.

There is nothing in the constitution that says federal laws trump all state laws- ONLY the enumerated powers.

The civil war was not fought to establish federal supremacy (well actually maybe it was) but it was WRONG. The states had the right to withdraw from the union. Preserving “The Union” was not some sacred thing...

imagine if they had fought over something OTHER THAN slavery, like the fed government telling you you had to buy health insurance, for instance.


67 posted on 12/27/2014 9:39:41 PM PST by Mr. K (Palin/Cruz 2016)
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To: DiogenesLamp

“This is an example of federalism that happens to be correct. The states cannot pass laws which violate federal laws. I believe we fought this thing called “THE CIVIL WAR” to establish that states cannot do such a thing.

Smoking pot is not a “freedom” it’s a dangerous indulgence that harms the users and often many people around them as well. Every pot-head I know is on welfare or some other form of government assistance like SSI. You don’t think there “freedom” is just a bit too costly for the rest of us?”

First off I don’t equate smoking an herb, with human slavery.

Secondly, following your logic we should not have repealed Prohibition, for surely the costs of alcohol vastly exceed the cost associated with the herb.

And finally we should not be paying to support people that do harm to themselves.

I don’t drink or use drugs, but we should not have our rights taken, by the government.

Punish those who do harm, and leave the rest of us alone.


71 posted on 12/27/2014 10:54:01 PM PST by truth_seeker
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