“Not in the world we live in today. Stories verbally passed on from generation to generation from a thousand years ago, without any demonstrable scientific proof are just that. Stories. Perhaps we could view a scientific presentation of a human being walking on water? -uh-huh...”
Still.
“-So the God you believe in, doesn’t even abide by his own physical laws? -Interesting science.”
You seem to confuse science with God. Your puny understanding of “physical laws” is inadequate to explain much of the physical world, let alone God Himself. God stands outside all of creation. Why do you think He would be subject to the laws of creation?
“...by sadistically allowing his wife and children to be murdered. -Not logical. Not logical at all. Ive come to the logical conclusion that the story of Job is completely bogus.”
Ah, Spock, we thought you’d died in The Wrath of Khan!!! Welcome back!
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You seem to confuse science with God.
- I'm not at all confused about invisible beings who have never been revealed to a mass audience in recorded history. Not even once.
But according to biblical stories that were handed down orally from generation to generation, and not even written down until a few hundred years before Jesus birth, we're supposed to believe that these words were directly given to men from God. Some of them like Paul, had reportedly murdered his fellow travelers, including an innocent man named Stephan, had him stoned to death. But now I'm supposed to believe that this murderer of a disciple of Jesus, carries God's Word?
That's real hubris.
Your puny understanding of “physical laws” is inadequate to explain much of the physical world, let alone God Himself. God stands outside all of creation. Why do you think He would be subject to the laws of creation?
I'm not one who pretends to know God's mind. That's you, my brilliant friend. You, and your fellow unquestioning believers in the Bible - I'm just a *puny* human being who actually dares to ask fellow *puny* humans a few questions. :-)
From your first post to me:
"God stands outside the laws of physics - nor is He limited by created laws, anymore than by any other part of creation."
So let's have an understanding here, according to *your* version of God; he can violate His own laws, *except* for the law about the Original Sin? Because that's immutable, we're told in the Bible. Because man disobeyed God In the garden of Eden, all of his offspring are forever cursed to a fiery hell and damnation without a blood offering... which is why Jesus had to show up 6,000 years to pay the price after the first sin was committed...
Apparently God couldn't be troubled with just overlooking His law, like he apparently does with his other physical laws. That would have been too easy, I suppose, to have sent Jesus to earth right then and there, so millions upon millions of people could have been spared all that misery and suffering, and unforgiven sin.
- Wow, again with the silly *logic* thinking, in my *puny* human brain that God gave me. Why couldn't Jesus come down to earth back before Noah, to show *puny* humans how to love one another and not stone women who committed adultery, etc, etc, etc?
No, there had to be thousands of years of people sacrificing animals on alters before that could be done. Got it.
(My puny understanding of a loving God not withstanding. -That's some pretty amazing *science*.
I once believed all of,the Bible without question. But looking back, I can't believe how crazy that was. (It was beaten into me, by my angry father.) But that goofy thing that you mock as logic took over, and in spite of the fear of my angry father, I started asking questions like; after the world was almost entirely destroyed by a flood, WHY would God have to put the animals in an Ark, he could have just recreated them. According to the biblical narrative, only took seven days to create the entire universe. And after all, He created man in just one day. ( Genesis chapter 2 tells us that Eve was created later, after Adam got to name the animals. Sorry about your luck, Eve. :-/ )
And of course, there's the silly questions I had about the animals in the ark, what did they eat for 40 days, never mind that the lions and tigers (and bears, oh my) are all meat eaters, and would have pretty much decimated the antelope and reindeer, while they played their reindeer games. Yeah, yeah, they were all in suspended animation, I'm sure.
So many questions, all if them based on that goofy “spock” logic...
I have done it any number of times just this month.