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3 things cops can take away from the NYPD ambush
Police One ^ | December 24, 2014 | Lieutenant Colonel Paul C. Wood

Posted on 12/24/2014 9:30:34 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

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1 posted on 12/24/2014 9:30:34 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
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# 3 - No matter what the dispatcher says, the actor(s) have “no KNOWN weapons”; not “no weapons”.


2 posted on 12/24/2014 9:36:40 PM PST by lightman (O Lord, save Thy people and bless Thine inheritance, giving to Thy Church vict'ry o'er Her enemies.)
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IMHO, the passenger side mirror should be set up so the passenger can see behind him.

Hate to say it, but these two officers were in condition white.

You need to be a little nervous and always aware of the conditions around you.


3 posted on 12/24/2014 9:39:28 PM PST by MediaMole
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When you’re out there in public in uniform, you are a walking target for the angry, deranged, damaged, drugged, and sociopathic among us. It doesn’t matter if you’re surrounded by brother officers, parked in a remote location in your patrol car, or in the back corner of the local cop stop eatery — you are not safe, you cannot turn your radar off, and you cannot mistake your familiar, comfortable, surroundings for safety.

Given that a beat cop's entire job is scoping out the people around him, I am surprised these two guys got bushwhacked. How in the world do you let a black guy walk up to you without klaxons going off? You might not want to arrest him, but you certainly want to pay more attention to him than to any non-black guys around.

4 posted on 12/24/2014 9:42:50 PM PST by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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As a former police officer (30 + years), I attribute my survival to two thing: Always aware of my surroundings and I never become complacent.

I knew that the world was out to get me and I lived that way ...

I never assumed I was safe, no matter were I was or what I was doing.


5 posted on 12/24/2014 9:45:09 PM PST by doc1019
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Good advice for everyone. Just watched a video of a video of a woman carjacked in NOLA by 3 “brave”, armed, urban yutes. White woman, black perps so it won’t make the news. She had just parked her vehicle and was maybe going into her home or a local establishment. Radar off then BAM. You could literally feel the terror.


6 posted on 12/24/2014 9:50:01 PM PST by Eagles6 (Valley Forge Redux. If not now, when? If not here, where? If not us then who?)
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What a way to have to live. God Bless You and Merry Chrstmas.


7 posted on 12/24/2014 10:10:56 PM PST by billys kid (My beloved husband. may you rest in peace 10/01/14. You are my heart. 1-4-3.)
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It is considered survival for the average cop. And Merry Christmas to you as well.


8 posted on 12/24/2014 10:13:31 PM PST by doc1019
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I think the person who wrote the artilce is right but I think that is impossible for the duration of a whole shift to be in a red or yellow state. (i don’t even know what a whole shift is. ) and i’m just thinking about in my own little safe world where i need to concentrate and solve problems. I need to sit and relax during the day. I think that cops should rotate in and out of the precinct house to make that the only safe place to relax, eat lunch, get a coffee, etc. I think the police are now under siege because the feds want to take them over. And unfortunately the feds are our enemies.


9 posted on 12/24/2014 10:20:40 PM PST by kvanbrunt2 (civil law: commanding what is right and prohibiting what is wrong Blackstone Commentaries I p44)
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I am surprised these two guys got bushwhacked. How in the world do you let a black guy walk up to you without klaxons going off?

It was a city street; narrow, as many of those streets are. There are quite a few people in NYC, and 25% of them are black. If parked like that, the officers had no way to escape the fact that at least 100 people of all colors walk by them every single minute.

Theoretically, they could park in some large parking lot by some big-box store, and keep the distance. But those are not that common in NYC, IIRC, and the officers had no real reason to be worried. They also cannot just go anywhere they please - they had to stay within their beat and be available for assignments.

10 posted on 12/24/2014 10:20:56 PM PST by Greysard
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I’ve lived in Philly for 30 years and i am much more conscious of arranging my departure from my car to my house. I used to have a carry permit. don’t now but i do need to re-up that. I’m also conscious in the burbs i frequent.


11 posted on 12/24/2014 10:26:59 PM PST by kvanbrunt2 (civil law: commanding what is right and prohibiting what is wrong Blackstone Commentaries I p44)
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There are quite a few people in NYC, and 25% of them are black.

Bed-Stuy is 70% black. Scratch out the women, the children (1-12) and silver-haired (45-80), and it's 15%, as in 3 out of every 20 people is a fighting-age black male. Fighting age black males who get within point-blank range of cops are rare. My point is that they let the guy close without their spidey senses going off.

12 posted on 12/24/2014 10:34:58 PM PST by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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I think the person who wrote the artilce is right but I think that is impossible for the duration of a whole shift to be in a red or yellow state. (i don’t even know what a whole shift is. ) and i’m just thinking about in my own little safe world where i need to concentrate and solve problems.

Solving problems requires you to zone out completely. Being watchful requires a much lower level of focus.

13 posted on 12/24/2014 10:37:49 PM PST by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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Definitely reup, especially now. Philly will be a hot zone very soon if not already.


14 posted on 12/24/2014 11:03:34 PM PST by Eagles6 (Valley Forge Redux. If not now, when? If not here, where? If not us then who?)
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The only place a cop is a safe is in a small town where he will probably never have to draw a gun in his entire career.

The catch of course is such places are few and between in America.

There is no substitute for being alert, vigilant and being ready to confront a truly dangerous situation.

A cop’s job is and always has been, high risk and low reward. You seldom run across decent people in that line of work.

Its not a cop’s job to be “nice.” Its a cop’s job to stay alive and make it home safe and sound every day.


15 posted on 12/24/2014 11:18:52 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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As a police officer, your survival was due to your training and partly due to the fact times were different then in America.

Today’s PC hostility to cops has made difficult work even more stressful and dangerous.

The NYPD cops were murdered because of PC pressure to let their guard down. That cost them their lives.

If people are not willing to secure their own lives, we both know they have absolutely no business being in law enforcement, period.

If they can’t do that, they can’t truly do their job.


16 posted on 12/24/2014 11:24:00 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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If we are partnered up and parked I move the mirror so I can see behind me from the passenger seat or I get out....I do the same if I am driver...I move it so passenger officer can see back.

Had a multi officer killer try to get me and fortune/fate probably saved me from at least being wounded. The murderer was dead 4 hours later after trying to ambush another officer.

I have sent someone airborne from my driver’s door hitting them as I opened it into them as they ran up on me. Sorry...didn’t know your intention was to “thank you” for my service.

I always throw in a “My wife would kill me if I got shot” to smooth over any ruffled feathers.


17 posted on 12/25/2014 1:02:32 AM PST by TheErnFormerlyKnownAsBig (Hope the holland tunnel gets the makeover I suggested.)
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Rasis. Suggesting the cops profile based on RACE?
Shame on you!

/s


18 posted on 12/25/2014 1:09:24 AM PST by Kozak ("It may be dangerous to be America's enemy, but to be America's friend is fatal" Henry Kissinger)
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When you’re out there in public in uniform, you are a walking target for the angry, deranged, damaged, drugged, and sociopathic among us.

And that's just the politicians, the street people can be just as bad...

19 posted on 12/25/2014 4:39:29 AM PST by null and void (Will the obama love story be called Broke Barack Mountin' or The Love That Dare Not Say Hussein?)
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And that's just the politicians, the street people can be just as bad...

You owe me a new keyboard!

20 posted on 12/25/2014 6:15:30 AM PST by Gritty (Evidence suggests once you reach the post-Christian stage, you don't have much of a future-Mk Steyn)
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