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To: naturalman1975

Actually you did imply it, but it turns out you were in the navy, read your own posts, although they are so long winded.

Seriously, you want to compare this lone gunman with a shot gun in a cafe, to the Iranian Embassy Siege?

You really are not knowledgeable about this kind of operation, but anyone should be able to know the difference between the challenges involved in this cafe, versus terrorists holding the Iranian Embassy Siege, even an armchair amateur like you should know better than to compare those two.

“A group of six armed men stormed the Iranian embassy in South Kensington, London. The gunmen took 26 people hostage—mostly embassy staff, but several visitors and a police officer, who had been guarding the embassy, were also held. The hostage-takers, members of an Iranian Arab group”

“Firearms (including pistols and submachine guns), ammunition and hand grenades. The weapons, predominantly Soviet-made, are believed to have been smuggled into the United Kingdom in a diplomatic bag belonging to Iraq.”

By the sixth day of the siege the gunmen had become increasingly frustrated at the lack of progress in meeting their demands. That evening, they killed one of the hostages and threw his body out of the embassy. As a result, the British government ordered the Special Air Service (SAS), a special forces regiment of the British Army, to conduct an assault to rescue the remaining hostages. Shortly afterwards, soldiers abseiled from the roof of the building and forced entry through the windows. During the 17-minute raid, the SAS rescued all but one of the remaining hostages, and killed five of the six terrorists.”

“Meanwhile, further teams entered the embassy through the back door and cleared the ground floor and cellar.[54] The SAS then began evacuating hostages, manhandling them down the stairs towards the back door of the embassy. Two of the terrorists were hiding amongst the hostages—one of them produced a hand grenade when he was identified. An SAS soldier, who was unable to shoot for fear of hitting a hostage or another soldier, pushed the grenade-wielding terrorist to the bottom of the stairs, where two other soldiers shot him dead.[51][55]
The raid lasted 17 minutes and involved 30–35 soldiers. The terrorists killed one hostage and seriously wounded two others during the raid while the SAS killed all but one of the terrorists.”


25 posted on 12/17/2014 11:40:01 PM PST by ansel12
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To: ansel12
Actually you did imply it, but it turns out you were in the navy, read your own posts, although they are so long winded.

Yes, I was in the Navy. You have some sort of problem with that, do you? And I implied nothing except that I've been involved in rescuing people and copping ill judged and stupid criticism from amateurs, which is quite true. As for being longwinded, that's fair - I believe in being thorough especially when I'm discussing things with somebody who doesn't seem to understand simple concepts.

Seriously, you want to compare this lone gunman with a shot gun in a cafe, to the Iranian Embassy Siege?

Just pointing out that just because people die, doesn't mean something went wrong - and it can happen even if the SAS are involved.

You're the one claiming that deaths mean mistakes were made and seems to think that it wouldn't happen with elite forces. And that's my point.

I could talk about some other operations by various groups, but I wouldn't assume you've heard of most of them because they are a lot more obscure - I was pretty sure that was one you would know about and it makes the point.

26 posted on 12/17/2014 11:53:11 PM PST by naturalman1975 ("America was under attack. Australia was immediately there to help." - John Winston Howard)
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