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To: naturalman1975

That’s funny, it sounds like you are the one claiming to be an expert, since you insist that it is wrong to think that something went wrong, although two hostages were killed, and another four wounded.

Then you proceed to pretend that you are in actuality an expert, although in other posts you say you aren’t.

When a single gunman, in a cafe like this with the police having everything on their side, results in 6 hostages with gunshot wounds and two of those dead, something went wrong.

Quit being hall monitor and allow us to discuss this hostage taking crime and SWAT operation, and it seems like they turned down help from better “experts”.

This situation was not so incredibly complicated on the scale of hostage taking, that so many wounded and dead, are acceptable.


20 posted on 12/17/2014 10:31:20 PM PST by ansel12
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To: ansel12
That’s funny, it sounds like you are the one claiming to be an expert, since you insist that it is wrong to think that something went wrong, although two hostages were killed, and another four wounded.

No, I'm not an expert. Just somebody who knows that everything can go right and people can still die for all sort of reasons.

Then you proceed to pretend that you are in actuality an expert, although in other posts you say you aren’t.

I'm not an expert on special operations/police tactics. I was however trained in maritime search and rescue, and that is the context in which I've described being involved in rescuing people in a situation where we could not save everyone. The incident I'm referring to was the 1998 Sydney to Hobart Yacht Race,

Quit being hall monitor and allow us to discuss this hostage taking crime and SWAT operation, and it seems like they turned down help from better “experts”.

You are the only person who I've seen comment - and I've read every thread on this - who I think is going too far. I've no problem with this being discussed sensibly and rationally, but you are going beyond that to the point of being unreasonable by casting judgements based on very limited information.

You are not just asking questions - you're insisting you know the answer. And, as I say, you are the only person I have seen going that far.

As for the idea they turned down help from the experts - my information is that rumour is not true (and the BBC has reported that the team that actually did the takedown - as opposed to the police containment team we saw on television - were from TAG East). But that is precisely the type of thing that will be investigated.

22 posted on 12/17/2014 10:53:49 PM PST by naturalman1975 ("America was under attack. Australia was immediately there to help." - John Winston Howard)
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