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1 posted on 12/12/2014 8:26:24 PM PST by wetphoenix
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What could go wrong?


2 posted on 12/12/2014 8:28:05 PM PST by Forgotten Amendments (Peace On Earth! Purity of Essence! McCain/Ripper 2016)
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I don’t see why the U.S. should fund the conflict. We have enough debt and can’t pay for what we’ve already spent. Surely this is a spot where we can save our money.


7 posted on 12/12/2014 8:49:20 PM PST by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light..... Isaiah 5:20)
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Kerry and Lavrov to meet in Rome on Monday.
Should be interesting since Lukashevich’s warning 3 weeks ago, and talk last week of reissuing the “Authorization to use Force” in the Russian parliament.

“Russia issued a warning to the United States after it was suggested by one official that arms should be sent to Ukrainian forces fighting pro-Russian separatists in eastern Ukraine, according to reports.

Russian Foreign Ministry spokesman Alexander Lukashevich said the move would be construed as sending a “very serious signal.” Pro-Russian rebels have been fighting government forces since April.

Lukashevich issued a warning against “a major change in policy of the U.S. administration in regard to the conflict” in eastern Ukraine, reported the Moscow Times.

“That would be a direct violation of agreements reached, including agreements reached with the participation of the United States,” he told the publication.


8 posted on 12/12/2014 8:52:48 PM PST by tcrlaf (They told me it could never happen in America. And then it did....)
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To: wetphoenix

I was hoping they would provide funding to give all prior service weapons and armor. Aren’t we more important than insurgents?


12 posted on 12/12/2014 9:13:24 PM PST by realcleanguy
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To: odds

All i can say Obama is the most convoluted admin the U.S. has had. But not the most surprising. There are those who have pretended to be conservatives but aren’t, relish him quietly on here. The world isn’t neatly divided into U.S. dems & conservatives or neocons. Time to think individually. That model is outdated. Time is up!


22 posted on 12/13/2014 12:22:11 AM PST by odds
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Good. The sooner Ukrainians get the right weapons to defend their country from Putin’s vainglorious adventurism the better. He’s supplied weapons to many nations that are repressing their own people and whose dictators work against peace and security in the world. He’s worked to harm the US as it seeks to stabilize Afghanistan by using his influence to get the base at Manas, Kyrgyzstan closed. He’s in a de facto alliance with Iran’s mad mullahs and has his secret services working with Iran’s. He’s having his subs go into neutral Sweden’s waters, and his planes buzz Norway’s airspace to alarm and frighten people uninvolved in his neo-empire building. He’s reckless, and he is a midget-minded rogue. His KGB background prepared him only to be a bully to the Russian people and to their neighbors. It may be that the Russian people are too wedded to being a bully nation to stand up to him, but the rest of the world must.


23 posted on 12/13/2014 12:29:12 AM PST by elhombrelibre (Against Obama. Against Putin. Pro-freedom. Pro-US Constitution.)
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if they want to hurt russia, just build the pipeline


28 posted on 12/13/2014 4:40:12 AM PST by newnhdad (Our new motto: USA, it was fun while it lasted.)
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To: wetphoenix

Yet another international banking family war to bring yet another little nation into their financial fold.

These elite families financially squash the sheeple in the elites’ “main” countries of US/UK/Europe, having them in debt up to their eyeballs their entire life, living in McMortgaged McHouses, working for the McCorps in McJobs their entire McLife, until they retire on McSocSec and McMedicare and are “put to sleep” when there are a few to many of them, by letting them McDie with McDignity.

And elites merely want to spread their wonderful tax/debt slavery (don’t worry, you get velvet handcuffs) to other countries.

Silly sheeple, you need more insurance, more regulation, more acceptance of immorality, more of CIAs opium, more of your children being raised by the godless government school system, etc.

To the east, Ukrainians see Russia, (quietly) controlled by Western financial elites since 1917, but it’s sort of trying to talk about Christianity and starting to have a little prosperity, to the west, they see what the financial elites have (a little more visibly) controlled for many centuries, the ungodly, hedonistic governments of the US/UK/Europe, which are stuck under a mountain of debt owed to the elites’ banking syndicate.

Both the Kremlin and the West report to London’s financial elites.


30 posted on 12/13/2014 5:09:44 AM PST by PieterCasparzen (We have to fix things ourselves)
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