Teen: German student thought burglaries were game (Diren Dede, shot dead in MT; srsly?)

Associated Press ^ | Dec 9, 2014 2:35 PM EST | Lisa Baumann

[Steely Tom]

The guy was not German. He was a Turk living in Germany.

And it's legal to burglarize people's garages in Turkey, right?

[Doctor 2Brains]

Yeah, generally speaking, even in New York for the love of God, if you enter somebody’s home, you can be shot. Period. Done. Does Montana have some kind of bizarre “garage exception”?

[editor-surveyor]

>> “The guy was not German. He was a Turk living in Germany.” <<

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‘Splains a lot!

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[Vendome]

Shooting burglars is a game too and there is no second place.

[GeronL]

If true, they were too stupid to live

[gundog]

Michael Brown pretty much spent his last hour playing a reality-based game of Grand Theft Auto.

[Vendome]

[trisham]

More info:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2626808/Authorities-told-slain-student-looking-alcohol.html

[BenLurkin]

Good point!

[Charles Martel]

I forget the details of this, but if I recall even some Freepers said this shooter is guilty of murder. I recall thinking that was crap, but I don’t remember these allegedly extreme circumstances that led some to think the shooter is guilty.

It depends on state law, but breaking and entering doesn't always equate to a deadly threat which would allow for use of lethal force in self-defense.

Back in the '90s, something like this happened in Baton Rouge, Louisiana. An LSU foreign exchange student (Japanese) who badly misunderstood the Halloween "Trick or Treat" traditions walked into someone's open garage and scared the crap out of a woman, who screamed. Her husband came running and shot the kid. The shooter believed he was protecting his wife and home, but he was convicted of manslaughter (IIRC).

[Thank You Rush]

“”A teen who was with a German exchange student the night he was fatally shot in a Montana garage testified at the homeowner’s murder trial “”

I wonder how much thought the writer gave to that phrasing...

[Robert357]

Well if he didn't know he could get shot for burglary, then by all means let's have street protests against the homeowner who shot the burglar. (/sarcasm)

[TexasCajun]

..and the homeowner is on trial for murder!

...testified at the homeowner’s murder trial...

[NorthMountain]

LSU foreign exchange student (Japanese) [was shot] The shooter believed he was protecting his wife and home, but he was convicted of manslaughter (IIRC).

The shooter was acquitted of manslaughter. He was found liable for wrongful death by a civil jury, and the deceased student's Japanese family used some of the money to lobby for disarming American citizens.

[mikrofon]

Originally, they suspected it was the perp’s brother – Yessin Dede

[george76]

Turkish Diren Dede was later buried in in his home country : Turkey

[Lion Den Dan]

Our home owner is a Laotian born American Citizen who had been burgled 2 or more times previous to this event. He is accused of luring this Turk/German into his garage by leaving the door open and placing a purse where it could be seen, then monitoring the garage with a bably monitor.

Both the Turk and the other kid with the Italian name were, in my opinion, scouting for a burglary. The turk chose to do the deed and paid the price. The home owner should receive an award and not a trial. In Germany, a home owner might really hurt you for intruding. A cop will kill you for not stopping on command.

[WayneS]

I don;t think anyone said Markus Kaarma is not German, although he may not be since he is the homeowner. At any rate, he’s probably of German descent.

The “teen” who was shot was a Turk living in Germany who appears to have come to the U.S. as an exchange-burglar.

[WayneS]

Well done!

[Paladin2]

The German Gov’t should be outraged that a Turkish Thief would be attempting to steal from someone named Markus....