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To: nicmarlo

In expanding upon that point and the question of whether or not they would respect the outcome or even call to any convention. We should be laying the groundwork for a cultural and political revolution to overthrown them should they not.

Ignoring the new Amendments coming out of a Constitutional convention would be a clear sign of their tretruy which is why they would be unlikely to do so at first.

Instead their army of litigators and political corruption will seek to rewrite our law into their laws over time in the same mamner and capacity have already done with our constitution over the last 80 years.

The only way to curtail this effort is to install practical checks upon their power with inheirt intrest derived from the power of our States.

The United States Senate uses to serve this capacity indirectly with some limited success back when they were appointed by legislators as originally designed. Short of restoring that limited but oringal check we could simply invent a new one.

I think the suggestion of 3/5th of our State lelgsdators acting on anything with in a period of two years is a bit nutty given the nature of State legislators. A decade may be a more realistic expectation, two decades reasonable.

State legislators like congress are by intentional design of our founders easily deadlocked. They must as a result be given ample time and elections to resolve matters of high importance such as law. Leaving smaller day to day tasks to the excursive.


20 posted on 12/07/2014 10:41:41 AM PST by Monorprise
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To: Monorprise

Levin understands the deadlock, but he has keen insight into human nature. What is the motivating factor with the State senators and representatives? Why is Levin likely speaking directly to them? This is a non-partisan & bi-partisan GAIN of power for each state elected official by taking back their own entitled power. That is the key motivator. The beautiful thing is there is absolutely nothing Congress or the men in black robes, or the bureaucracy can Constitutionally do about it or to stop it (unless they completely expose their true intent of setting up their own dictatorship, as you correctly inferred).

They would probably address issues slowly, but state officials have nothing to lose and everything to gain with a Convention of States. It’s really the only solution short of bloodshed to return this nation to its proper Constitutional moorings.


23 posted on 12/07/2014 11:03:23 AM PST by nicmarlo
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To: Monorprise
" their army of litigators and political corruption will seek to rewrite our law into their laws over time in the same mamner and capacity have already done with our constitution over the last 80 years"

Levin addresses this issue in his book. The solution is to make structural changes that cannot be ignored. For instance, so far the Presidential term limit is not being ignored. How would they ignore Congressional term limits? The new amendments must be carefully written to eliminate grey areas.

40 posted on 12/07/2014 12:49:09 PM PST by Da Bilge Troll (Defeatism is not a winning strategy!)
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To: Monorprise

The issue of an entrenched, rogue federal government that refuses to submit to the Constitution or the amendments from an Article V convention would IMO come down to whether states were willing to do without federal funding. That’s what it all comes down to. A state that goes it alone financially would be better off if it kept their state government small and let the free market economy run. That state would soon have a healthier economy than the bankrupt federal government.


54 posted on 12/07/2014 8:58:43 PM PST by PapaNew (The grace of God & freedom always win the debate in the forum of ideas over unjust law & government)
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