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Britain’s EU retreat means German hegemony warns Prodi
Daily Telegraph (UK) ^ | 5:37PM GMT 24 Nov 2014 | Ambrose Evans-Pritchard

Posted on 12/06/2014 1:43:01 PM PST by Olog-hai

Britain is already a lame duck within the EU’s internal governing structure and is losing influence “by the day” in Brussels, even before David Cameron holds a referendum on withdrawal. This self-isolation has upset the European balance of power in profound ways, leading ineluctably to German hegemony and a unipolar system centered on Berlin. […] Such is the verdict of Roman Prodi, the former Italian premier and ex-president of the European Commission. […]

“Germany is exercising an almost solitary power. The new presidents of the Commission and the Council are men who rotate around Germany’s orbit, and above all there is a very strong (German) presence among the directors, heads of cabinet and their deputies. The bureaucracy is adapting to the new correlation of forces,” he said.

“Even the Americans are doing so. When there is a problem between Europe and the United States, President Obama telephones Mrs. Merkel, not the British prime minister. In short, Germany has become the referee of Europe. As is well known, the rules in football are enforced when the referee whistles, and right now Germany is issuing the yellow card to a lot of countries,” he said. …

(Excerpt) Read more at telegraph.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Editorial; Germany; News/Current Events; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: davidcameron; europeanunion; eussr; germany; holyromanempire; romanoprodi; unitedkingdom
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Did not see this posted here; dates back to before Thanksgiving.

Makes me wonder why Prodi has such a problem with this; as a former president of the Commission, he ought to have known that this was the game plan.

1 posted on 12/06/2014 1:43:01 PM PST by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

Deutchland uber alles.......


2 posted on 12/06/2014 2:08:14 PM PST by Paladin2
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Don’t mention the war.


3 posted on 12/06/2014 2:12:32 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: Olog-hai

Who’s game plan?

Not France’s...


4 posted on 12/06/2014 2:19:30 PM PST by mac_truck ( Aide toi et dieu t aide)
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To: mac_truck

Nope, not at all. Goes back to Adenauer, in fact.


5 posted on 12/06/2014 2:32:42 PM PST by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

If you can’t conquer them with tanks, regroup and use banks.


6 posted on 12/06/2014 2:46:10 PM PST by txnativegop (I'm out of ideas about tag lines.)
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To: Olog-hai
During my jeuness dorée, If one had dared to call an Englishman a "European," one could expect a bloody nose.

The WOGS begin at Calais!

7 posted on 12/06/2014 3:45:52 PM PST by Kenny Bunk (The fate of the Republic rests in the hands of the '15 -16 Congress. God help us.)
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To: Olog-hai
This self-isolation has upset the European balance of power in profound ways,

Yep, fewer leeches in the British till. Germany might not want to carry Europe by itself. If the euro goes down, so will unemployment because national currencies will adjust for relative productivity. All of that is a good thing. Besides, I would rather have banks call the shots compared to eurocrats in Brussels.

8 posted on 12/06/2014 4:17:08 PM PST by Carry_Okie (Those who profess noblesse oblige regress to droit du seigneur.)
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No, that’s not the plan at all.


9 posted on 12/06/2014 4:21:35 PM PST by Olog-hai
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It looks more of an attempt by Prodi to keep UK politicians on board with the Euro project. He doesn't wish to see us leave so he's using a form of scare tactic against us. These scare tactics from EU proponents come in many forms - warning how we'll be poorer if we leave, an economic backwater etc. This is most likely just another play from the same book.
10 posted on 12/06/2014 4:31:48 PM PST by Scottishlibertarian
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No, that’s not the plan at all.

I didn't say that it was, as not all is going according to "plan."

Hence, please provide a source reference to said "plan." IMO, such best-laid things do have a way of coming apart pursuant to the vagaries of economic reality.

11 posted on 12/06/2014 4:32:22 PM PST by Carry_Okie (Those who profess noblesse oblige regress to droit du seigneur.)
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Or it could just be an “I tried” tactic.

Either way, he isn’t wrong about how much control Germany has over the EU even as is.


12 posted on 12/06/2014 4:34:31 PM PST by Olog-hai
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To: Carry_Okie

Sure, but not every plan falls apart right away.

The whole united Europe plan with Germany in charge dates back to the 1950s. This was even Konrad Adenauer’s intent, who said he wanted such a bloc to act as a “third power” between the leaders of the First World (the USA back then with the UK in second place after the war) and the Second World (the communist bloc with USSR out front). With Russia being newly hegemonic, a renewed push for unification will be on the heels of any crisis, and Berlin will certainly take the lead again.


13 posted on 12/06/2014 4:36:48 PM PST by Olog-hai
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I dont think he is necessarily wrong. What he is saying may well be absolutely correct. However, I doubt he personally is quite as worried about this German dominance as he pretends to be. But he knows Britain historically does not like the thought of a German dominated Europe. He's trying to push our buttons.
14 posted on 12/06/2014 5:08:48 PM PST by Scottishlibertarian
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Sure, but not every plan falls apart right away.

If I recall correctly, I remember Milton Friedman predicting the euro would fail in The Economist back in 1988 based upon the observation that undisciplined fiscal policy is usually discounted as inflation of the national currency; centralize the currency across borders and that no longer works, so it shows up as unemployment and a resulting drop in national productivity and therefore total wealth.

The dream of enforcing fiscal discipline in democratic states was doomed before it started. So, yes, it fell apart, not right away but as predicted. I don't call that a "plan" but a "debacle."

15 posted on 12/06/2014 8:26:41 PM PST by Carry_Okie (Those who profess noblesse oblige regress to droit du seigneur.)
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That was part of the plan with the euro from the start. All of the economists were warning what would happen, but the “euro fathers” actually wanted a crisis so that the EU could take more political power away from the member states. And that would not benefit Brussels, but Berlin; and also Frankfurt were the European Central Bank is located.


16 posted on 12/06/2014 8:31:02 PM PST by Olog-hai
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Olog-hai, always worried about Germany but can't be bothered by the most dangerous man (Halfrican) on the world.

Seems to me your house is crashing around your head but you'd rather complain about your neighbors house color!

17 posted on 12/06/2014 8:49:17 PM PST by Take_Ur_shot (Some day things are going to be as bad as they are right now!)
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And that would not benefit Brussels, but Berlin; and also Frankfurt were the European Central Bank is located.

By that logic, if you call polluting your own currency by diluting assets a "benefit," then they lost it with the two wars in Kosovo and Afghanistan. By letting us fight those wars, the Euro never became the drug trade currency of choice. Similarly, when Saddam Hussien announced that Iraq would trade oil in euros, his fate was sealed, and so was the euro. Therefore Germany's gambit to make its European economic hegemony into leverage with which to become a reserve currency was doomed in advance by the existence of overwhelming European pacifism. That makes it into a stupid "plan."

18 posted on 12/06/2014 9:02:48 PM PST by Carry_Okie (Those who profess noblesse oblige regress to droit du seigneur.)
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Undoubtedly they have a backup plan. The chaos is just the first step. They’ve been repatriating a lot of their gold, and buying up other gold to boot.


19 posted on 12/06/2014 9:36:15 PM PST by Olog-hai
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To: Take_Ur_shot
He’s part of it, but not its leader. Remember back in 2009 when he did express admiration for “European leadership”? (Repeated in October of this year as well.)
20 posted on 12/06/2014 9:39:18 PM PST by Olog-hai
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