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To: RinaseaofDs

What about head locks, that is legit, is it?


52 posted on 12/05/2014 8:25:53 AM PST by Biggirl (2014 MIdterms Were BOTH A Giant Wave And Restraining Order)
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To: Biggirl

With someone that big, you need all those people to make it happen. You can’t use pepper spray either. Just the vapor from it will incapacitate the officer enough to compromise their ability to put the suspect in custody.

A tazer is your best bet, followed by multiple folks holding the guy down. Generally, you put a knee across THE BACK of the neck until the guy is cuffed.

Once cuffed, you get him OFF HIS FACE, and into a sitting position. This is ESPECIALLY true if you’ve peppered him. The combo could cause death (being on their face and having some sort of respiratory distress - even mild distress can do it).

If you have to zip tie his legs and knees, do it. Just don’t leave him on his chest and face.

What I’ve never really understood is why you can’t use thorazine as a way of bringing a suspect under control and into custody. The only alternative beyond the tazer is your service weapon, or short of that several officers beating the suspect into unconsciousness or submission.

1 ketamine dart and you get a docile dude in pretty short order. The risk to the suspect is about on par with 40,000 volts in the chest causing a cardiac episode.

Ketamine, thorazine, take your pick. There are probably others. No mess, no smell, no icky cans. Just make sure one guy is shooting the dart gun. You hit a guy with more than two tranq darts and you will kill the guy.

I’m sure there’s a good reason why you can’t.


64 posted on 12/05/2014 8:39:04 AM PST by RinaseaofDs
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To: Biggirl

Submission holds are fair game under such circumstances, and alas are (to ignorant bystanders) indistinguishable from choke holds. Cuffing a huge guy waving his arms around is extremely hard and requires a lot of force.

Lesson: don’t break the law, and police won’t have reason to perhaps get rough with you. (This guy had been arrested for this some 8 times.)


103 posted on 12/05/2014 10:08:42 AM PST by ctdonath2 (Si vis pacem, para bellum.)
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